Following our loss to the Ukraine, Belgium have just taken a similarly unassailable 3-0 lead against Poland, so one bit of good DC news today is that we will have a home tie in September.
What this tie means
We will be trying to avoid relegation to Euro-Africa zone 2, a fate which we have only suffered once before. That was back in 1994, when we lost 3-2 to Romania, with Jeremy Bates and Mark Petchey playing singles and Tim Henman (taking part in his first ever DC tie) combining with Bates to win the doubles rubber in 5 sets.
It took a win against Monaco (after a 0-5 drubbing by Slovakia) to stop us from falling even further the following year, and then wins against Slovenia, Ghana and Egypt in 1996 to get us back to the level we are at now.
GBR v POL
We have a 7-0 record against Poland in DC ties, 31-4 in rubbers. Our last match against them in 1991 (away on clay) was the last time a GB team without a player in the top 100 has won a tie.
However, five of those seven wins came before we last won the DC in 1936 and they included Poland's first-ever DC tie, back in 1925 (also away on clay) when Gordon Lowe handed out a triple bagel and we didn't lose a set. Ah, those were the days!
-- Edited by steven at 17:56, 2009-03-07
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10-12 July are the dates for R1 of the relegation playoffs (i.e. for teams that lost in EA Gp 1 R1) but because all of the teams in the bottom half of the EA Gp 1 draw had byes, the tie v Poland is in R2 of the relegation playoffs, which are due to be played in September.
The tie could of course be moved to July in the same way as the Ukraine tie was moved from April to March, but I can't see JL wanting to do that - far more chance that Andy will play if it is in September I think.
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No, it doesn't work like that, there are only playoffs between promotion and relegation contenders for the World Group in DC, if we lose to Poland we go straight down. (for the women, playoffs exist for both WG I and WG II)
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Here's the juicy one - Poland are captained by Britains Nick Brown ! He is GBs ex Fed Cup captain and holds some interesting views on British tennis as a whole. His great quality was and is that he hates to lose anything in sport and in life. What an interesting atmosphere this could provide at the next DC tie !
baxi2 wrote:Here's the juicy one - Poland are captained by Britains Nick Brown ! He is GBs ex Fed Cup captain and holds some interesting views on British tennis as a whole. His great quality was and is that he hates to lose anything in sport and in life. What an interesting atmosphere this could provide at the next DC tie !
Sounds good, but where did you get that info from? I thought Radoslaw Szymanik had been the Polish DC captain since they suffered the ignominy of losing to Georgia at home in 2006 - he's listed as the captain for the Belgium tie.
Is Nick perhaps involved in some other way?
Edit: Ah, looks like he's the coach, i.e. their Paul Annacone equivalent rather than JL equivalent.
-- Edited by steven at 11:35, 2009-03-08
-- Edited by steven at 11:37, 2009-03-08
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steven wrote:No, it doesn't work like that, there are only playoffs between promotion and relegation contenders for the World Group in DC, if we lose to Poland we go straight down. (for the women, playoffs exist for both WG I and WG II)
Why in 06 did we play three matches in EA Group 1? (l. Serbia, l. Israel, b. Ukraine)
steven wrote:No, it doesn't work like that, there are only playoffs between promotion and relegation contenders for the World Group in DC, if we lose to Poland we go straight down. (for the women, playoffs exist for both WG I and WG II)
Why in 06 did we play three matches in EA Group 1? (l. Serbia, l. Israel, b. Ukraine)
Without checking the draw for that year, I'd suspect it was because instead of drawing the bye like we did this year in round 1, we drew Serbia instead.
This year South Africa and Macedonia were the teams who didn't get a bye in round 1, and the winner of that tie, South Africa, will play Belarus in May to determine who gets promoted, while I presume the loser will face Macedonia in July, with the loser facing Slovak Republic in the relegation play-off in September.
But as there isn't always an even number of teams in the group because it depends on who wins the world group play-off matches, there's always the likelyhood that some teams will have to play twice, while others only once.