Muzza questions Boggo fighting spirit

Sheddie · administrator

Muzza questions Boggo fighting spirit

The Hoose · Satellite level

Certainly seems as if Andy left courtside because he was annoyed at Boggo not wanting it enough. If so, that's pretty poor from Andy as he should have been leading the support anyway - there's plenty of time after the event for him to make his feelings clear.

Sheddie · administrator

personally I reckon the LTA should follow the example of the Dnepropetrovsk challenger and pay and group of hot models (to entertain the players on Sunday night) if they win the tie.

Dnepropetrovsk offer this at their players party and it means that their qualies event is one of the most tightly contested in the whole year, rumours say it's almost up their with grand slam qualies in terms of intenseness.

That would certainly have brought the best out of Jamie for a start

freerider · Futures level

this is all silly i would prefer gb to be in euro africa group 4 and have a team thats pulls together than have all this bitchyness

Drew · Sep 21, 2008

What garbage !
He DID NOT say anything critical of boggo. He was saying how different they were and that is all he left to watch with annacone from the team area.
As i said elsewhere boggo struggled with a hamstring he strained playing melzer.
Boggo was happy with his effort and mental strength for the whole match. He just ended up having to go for big shots.

The Hoose · Satellite level

The Shedman wrote:

personally I reckon the LTA should follow the example of the Dnepropetrovsk challenger and pay and group of hot models (to entertain the players on Sunday night) if they win the tie.

Dnepropetrovsk offer this at their players party and it means that their qualies event is one of the most tightly contested in the whole year, rumours say it's almost up their with grand slam qualies in terms of intenseness.

That would certainly have brought the best out of Jamie for a start

Not sure it would have helped Boggo stay calm though.

Sheddie · administrator

yeah jeez....even Andy may have struggled with that at stake

remember how he said he often struggled with pressure at the pre-tie press conference

-- Edited by The Shedman at 21:26, 2008-09-21

The Hoose · Satellite level

Drew wrote:

What garbage !
He DID NOT say anything critical of boggo. He was saying how different they were and that is all he left to watch with annacone from the team area.
As i said elsewhere boggo struggled with a hamstring he strained playing melzer.
Boggo was happy with his effort and mental strength for the whole match. He just ended up having to go for big shots.

He certainly did criticise Boggo.

Quotes such as this... "He had the tennis to win the match.... but as soon as it went against him, there wasn't a whole lot of resistance"

and then strongly hinting that the other guys in the team didn't have the desire or put in the effort.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/7628467.stm

XCW4EVA · County player

Murray can say what he wants, he earnt that right when he beat the players he was facing. Boggo should be beating players like Peya and we can't escape this fact. Murray can say whatever the hell he feel like, u dont have to pay any attention to it if u dnt like it.

mjd · Challenger qualifying

XCW4EVA wrote:
.................Boggo should be beating players like Peya and we can't escape this fact............................

Makes it sound like Peya is an unranked player instead of one that was in the top 100 at one time last year and is currently just 2 places lower han Boggo, admittedly he is up and down, just like Boggo, who today obviously did his best which wasnt good enough but unfortunately two players of equal ranking one of them had to lose, today it was Boggo - that's tennis!

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

I was hoping so much that Alex could overcome his devils and come through today. He tried his best, I'm sure of that, but his best didn't prove enough. He seems to be a rather quiet, retiring type of young man - and I'm afraid that although that may make for being a pleasant person, it doesn't make a winner. He wants to win, but just doesn't have a killer instinct.

Yes, I know Drew says he had a hamstring problem. That doesn't account for all the times when he was in the right place to hit the ball and put it out - that was nerves, not injury, and if he has not conquered his nerves by 24 years old I am beginning to think that, unfortunately, he never will.

XCW4EVA · County player

but he didn't just lose, he folded really badly! Thats not a part of a tennis, its a part of Boggos tennis though, i just think its a shame that we haven't got anyone that would have done any better.
He didn't have fighting spirit today! Im sick of people defending Boggo blindly, he really is not changing or developing anymore!

The Hoose · Satellite level

XCW4EVA wrote:

Murray can say what he wants, he earnt that right when he beat the players he was facing.

This is a team game - putting in a good individual performance doesn't earn you the right to slag off your teammates. Murray behaving like this in public is only going to put more pressure on people who play Davis Cup with him.

Boggo's been consistent at failing to perform at this level, so it's hard to accuse him of underperforming: I really can't see how it's due to lack of effort. I think we have to start to accept his mental make-up, and pick someone else if this means he can't deliver.

Count Zero · Tennis legend

i managed to find a press/blog arctile actually saying something nice about Alex.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/59943-alex-bogdanovic-the-joker-in-the-pack

i was very disspaointed to see Andy leave the bench, and supposedly watch from indoors. his reason that youi can see better on TV is hardly great. did he walk out on ross and jamie?

Alex has always played that way, for Andy to suggest Alex should break racquets etc to show he cared would mean alex would almost have to try and fake his personality on court, which idont think would be a good thing.

Alex has been in and out of the DC team over the years like a yo yo, he stepped up in Argentina when andy didnt want to, depsite it hampering his early season. hopefulyl he will get a break from the DC now, if murray pulls out then alex should too, concentrate on his rankings/career. Perhaps when he is top 100 then he cna look to it again.

goldfish · Futures qualifying

I agree that Boggo should have a rest from Davis Cup but I don't think it will be his choice so much as him not being picked for a while at least. John Lloyd said yesterday that he was going to give the younger guys a chance. I feel very sorry for Alex - despite all the ciritcism, all the failures to win a live rubber, all the losses in main draws at Wimbledon, he took on the challenge once again knowing that he would get hammered if he didn't win. Why should he take so much criticism when no-one else seems able to do any better? OK, no-one else got the chance this time, but obviously because it was deemed that no-one else would do better than Alex. Pity he couldn't convert his talent which just looks so much better than his ranking at times but he isn't pretending to be a top 100 player at present and frustrating as it is for those of us watching, it is totally unfair for him to take so much flack when he is, after all, the GB no 2 player - quite an achievement in life. Share it between everyone else who hasn't even made it to this standard.

Good Luck Alex - hope you can enjoy pursuing your own ranking for a while without quite so much attention on you.