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End of year Rankings


The intense involvement over the last few weeks have taught us a lot about our players.  We are at such a low in the mens game, a rise in rankings may seem the obvious course of events but, individually, who do you think will do well?  On 31st December 2008, who'll have moved up or down in the rankings?

(Current ranking in Brackets)

Andy Murray (11)  A little up I think, nothing to defend still for a while, then a fair chunk at the end of the year.  He is improving as a player but the consistency is a long way away yet.  Up to about 7 or 8 I think.

Jamie Baker (260) Maybe a slight fall in rankings as I think his illness will take a long time to get out of his system.

Josh Goodall (266)  On the up I think but not much inside the top 200 if at all.

Alex Bogdanovic (271)  Back inside the top 200 and back to Britains number 2.  I suspect he'll still continue to frustrate though, we'll always feel there's more to come from the guy but, he's due a decent set of results soon.

Alexander Slabinsky (329)  He looks to be moving up to challenger level and though it'll improve his game, I think he'll struggle for points. When his autumn points come off, I think it'll results in an overall fall but, hopefully he'll be the better player for it next year.

Richard Bloomfield (381)  Most likely to rise but, how far he can go now is a big question.

James Ward (474)  Another sure to rise.  It'll be interesting to see his choice of tournaments as to whether he chases points or the experience to be gained.

Ken Skupski (528)  Another sure to rise, a challenger player of the future?

Edward Seator (508), Miles Kasiri (609), Neil Bamford (675) To more or less hold their level.

Alexander Ward (963) and James Feaver (853) could be ones to watch but I think their big move maybe more than 6 months away yet unlike Chris Eaton (658) who is at that stage now.

The class of 1990 (900-1800).  Those on or around that this age haven't exactly pushed up the rankings yet and some will be the typical British example of junior not converting at senior level.  Dan Evans picked up some points in May though, and Dan Cox had that wonderful day at Nottingam qualies.  The next 6 months, with home futures and hard courts a-plenty should see one or two really start to stand out from the crowd and move on to the next level.  Failiure to push on in the next 6 months wont mean the end of a career for anybody, but it'll certainly show us who stands the most chance of fulfilling their potential.




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is it that time of year again? smile:

Murray: i agree 7/8 & entry into the TMC would be a good result, and maybe with a good start to 09 at the AO he can push on.

Baker: hard to tell how quick he will fully recover, bit of a tough 1st match back as it didnt allow him to really settle but it was quite promising i felt. He has a large chunk of points coming up at the end of July which could drop him out the top 300 so he really needs to get some in the bag before then if possible, although i dont think dropping back to play a few more furture would pahse him
If he can end the year inside the top 250 i think it will be a good thing considering how much he missed, and if he can find his proper form maybe even top 225.

Boggo: Was this Notts run a turning point? i doubt it as we've said that so many times before. However if he can get some consistency back and stay injury free over the summer/autumn he can push up the rankings as from now till end of sept he has no points to defend (he has only 49 pts for the whole year to defend now). the run this week was vital too as being back inisde the top 250 should mean he is able to get DE into the summer challengers. i belive he will get him self back into the top 200, but its impossible to say from there with him. he could end the year aroudn there or even pushing back up towards the top 100.

Josh: maybe around 200-225 but i not sure how much higher, stil lneed to see him doing more at challenger level

Rich: i really dont know. he has fallen so far, but seems to be getting a few things back on track in the grass season, but how will he do once that is over? he should be able toget abck in the top 300 but i doubt he will break 250 this year.

Slabba: he showed some encourgaing signs at queens, and on the grass in general but the brits of play above their rankings then dont they. will be interetsing to see if he can get some challenger lvl wins, needs to start beating more players around his level yr end 350

Ward: i think he should chase points to be honest. get yourself a comfortable cushion and then try for the tougher events, i think the loss to boggo showed that he isnt quite up to challenger lvl yet but i think he is getting there and has the right attitude to suceed. yr end 350

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I'd be shocked if Seator managed to hold his level. Shocked, but very pleasantly so I have to add.

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I think Seator need sot learn how to get some points away from the African futures.

I think Skupski will definately be a player to keep an eye on. If Eaton can continue his form from the past few weeks, he could really push on next year as he's not had the greatest of years so far.

I'm interested to see what happens with Evans and Cox. I think they should start to push away from juniorsd and hit the main tour.

I think Feaver might actually benefit from doing the african circuit and get himeself to a level like Seator did.

I think Slabba will hover around the level he's at for a while, like Jamie Baker did. He got to around 350 and took a while to get used to challenger level, but is now likely to start thriving again.

From what I've seen and heard of Jamie Ward I think he is definately a guy on the up. He needs to proper coaching, and I dont just mean hitting the ball. I mean man management and mental preparation. I see a big future for him

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gazzpash wrote:

I think Seator need sot learn how to get some points away from the African futures.


You have a point there, of course, but contrary to popular belief, Edward's two biggest ranking point hauls came from reaching Futures Finals in Poland and Italy, the points from both of which are due to drop off in September. Unfortunately, he was bagelled in both Finals, though in the Italian one he did win a set.

It's hard to know how good the performance in the Italian Future was, because his QF opponent retired when Edward was 2-0 up in the final set and his SF opponent retired when Edward was 6-1 1-0 up and we don't know at what stage the things that made them retire started to affect them.

In the Polish Future though, he knocked out no. 1 seed Benjamin Balleret in straight sets in R2, when the Monegasque player was ranked just outside the top 300 - I think it's his best win to date.





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Andy Murray - 8th - He'll do enough at Wimbledon, in the NA hard courts and then in the indoor season to just reach the masters cup, but I think the top 6 are out of his reach already, and it's a battle between him and Nalby for the 7th spot, but I think Nalby will wake up for long enough to beat him to it.

Jamie Baker - 220ish - Think it will take a month or so to get back into the swing of playing matches again and so his ranking will drop, but I think he'll do enough to start to move back towards the top 200 - it won't be until next season though that he makes the top 200.

Alex Bogdanovic - 150ish, but honestly who knows - depends entirely on which Boggo shows up.... the good Boggo or the bad Boggo - the good news is that he's gained enough points to ensure he won't drop any lower than he is, so it's all about what he does the rest of the season. He'll move up again as even a series of challenger QF's will boost his ranking, and he's bound to have the odd tournament where he puts it together - a good draw at Wimbledon and the 35 points from that though will make a world of difference

Josh Goodall - 220ish - he's shown enough this year to suggest he can move up the rankings again, but until the indoor season points aren't going to come too easy for him.

Alex Slabinsky - 330ish - he needs to start scoring points sooner or later as he's got a lot to defend at the end of the season, but I think for the moment he'll end the year around where he is now or just below it - he's got to win matches at challenger level which he hasn't been doing, and when he drops to futures, he's got to be looking at QF's as a bare minimum

Richard Bloomfield - 350ish - depends how the loss to Peya affects him, but I see him moving up the rankings a bit, but the test will come as to how many points he can get after the grass season is over.

James Ward - 350ish - he's got to actually start getting some points to back up his performances, but at the moment he's still at the level where he's only just going to be seeded for stronger futures and will have to qualify for challengers - hope he decides to go for the points to get that ranking up.

The rest:

Skupski - 450ish - he'll continue to do well on the fast courts, and with a ranking this year he'll be able to play all the indoor futures, and should be seeded in some of them
Seator - 600ish - got a lot of points to defend, and I don't see him defending them all, but he'll do enough to get to the 600 point level
Eaton - 400ish - huge boost of confidence after Wimbledon will see him gain a load of points on the fast courts, but he should stick to futures for the time being to get that ranking up
Bamford - 650ish
Feaver - 650ish
Marray - no idea - think he'll get back into the top 1000, and probaly could push the 500 barrier if he returns to his old level
The Juniors.... hope to see Cox, Evans and co push the 750 mark by the end of the year at least by playing futures to prove that they can make it at senior level

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gazzpash wrote:
I'm interested to see what happens with Evans and Cox. I think they should start to push away from juniorsd and hit the main tour.


It's not like it depends on them, does it? cry I personally think that they could have been top 600 by now (there I go again) if they had been made to quit Juniors at the right time.


I think that they should push for the 500 mark by the year end. Not easy, obviously, but no point in setting easy goals in any case. Not that it is going to happen, but I want them to play hard court/grass Futures in Europe, plus the Manchester Challenger, till GB F15. After that, they should take a one week break and then travel to the US to play tournaments there, followed by the Jersey Challenger. Another option would be to play in Australia, but it depends on the yet to be relased portions of the calender.

Smethurst could be top 750 by the year end if he plays more men's touneys, as could Willis. Willis, though, should do the US Open Juniors according to me.




Slabba needs to try to get into USO qualies. It's not very likely, but it's a challenge he should relish. Ward, in the same manner, should try for AO qualies. I hope that they both will go for Challengers only from now on (a few exceptions can be made, of course).


Eaton's confidence must be an all time high now and he should make the most of it - for when you're outside the top 150 and you get so many points in a Slam, chances are that you'll lose it next year (harsh fact, but true). He should play all the grass/carpet/fast indoor hard Challengers and maybe one ATP qualies, too. Aim should be AO qualies.


I expect Seator to be ranked 450-500 by year end, but I want him to play more Challenger qualies. Marray and Mors should both try to end the year inside the top 600.


Boggo, Baker and Josh should all try to end the year in the top 150, not that it's very likely. I hope Boggo and Goodall won't hang around in North America after the USO, unlike Baker, who's far better on outdoor hard and should stay there.


Bloomers should have regained a lot of his confidence that he was possibly lacking after a poor few months. A good time, too, since he has more tournaments on his favoured surfaces in the second half of the year. I'll be happy to see him in the top 250! I think Skupski will tour with him, but with an aim of AO qualies.


Rice, Milton and Thornley, all are good enough to get to the top 750. But what Rice and Milton are doing on clay I don't know!


-- Edited by Greenleaf at 05:10, 2008-06-20

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