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Jon


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RE: British Women - Top 25 etc table


Why does the WTA have Naomi at 218 rather than 256 today? I make her counting tournaments as being:
Grenoble - 8
Sharm El Sheikh 8 - 8
Talinn - 9
Edgbaston - 9
Phuket - 14
Nottingham - 4
Wimbledon - 40
Granby - 8
Winnipeg - 14
Vancouver - 6
Landisville - 8
Lagos - 24
Lagos 2 - 24
Barnstaple - 30
Zawada - 8
Madrid - 14
Ankara - 32


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Jon wrote:

Why does the WTA have Naomi at 218 rather than 256 today? I make her counting tournaments as being:
Grenoble - 8
Sharm El Sheikh 8 - 8
Talinn - 9
Edgbaston - 9
Phuket - 14
Nottingham - 4
Wimbledon - 40
Granby - 8
Winnipeg - 14
Vancouver - 6
Landisville - 8
Lagos - 24
Lagos 2 - 24
Barnstaple - 30
Zawada - 8
Madrid - 14
Ankara - 32


The ranking tables on the WTA site say they have been updated, i.e. at the top it says "Rankings as of 23 December 2013" but in fact they haven't been. Only the pdf versions (e.g. http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-Archive/Rankings_Stats/Singles_Numeric.pdf) are up to date, and there she has got 256 points.



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What a great start to the year for the women. 21 of the top 25 are now ranked higher than they were at the end of last year and all of these rose last week too.

The top 25 table is a veritable sea of blue :)

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I've been asked whether it is possible to work out how many weeks various players (basically from Anne/Bally/Katie onwards) have spent as GB women's no. 1. My week by week records only go back to mid-2008, so I'd only be guessing for the 6 years or so before that (Bally first became year-end GB no. 1 in 2002, Anne a year later) but I was just wondering whether anyone here does have records (maybe paper records) going back far enough.

Even if someone has, don't bother it it's lots of work, but if it's 'just' a case of flicking through and doing a quick count of the GB no. 1 weeks for each player up to the time when my records start, then it might come in useful sometime (and I would credit the person providing the data if appropriate, obviously!)

I imagine it's very unlikely that someone does have all this data, but it would be silly not to ask then find out later that someone had had it all the time

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GB women - WTA singles points in the first 10 weeks of 2014 - top 12

(the position in brackets is their GB position in the current rankings)

284 Heather Watson (3)
53 Johanna Konta (2)
42 Tara Moore (6)
26 Naomi Broady (4)

14 Eleanor Dean (20)
11 Laura Robson (1)
11 Jade Windley (7)
11 Emily Webley-Smith (10)

10 Samantha Murray (5)
5 Katy Dunne (12)
5 Emily Arbuthnott (UN)
4 Manisha Foster (15)

Adding in the points for those with 3 or less: Heather 284 The Rest 208 (obviously not quite Andy v the other GB men but still ...)



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Interesting.

Depth...not...

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Slightly harsh - half of our top 10 have been injured this year and have picked up very few points.

Laura, Sam, Jade, Lisa, Amanda

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My thoughrs, as generally usually on depth, are rather further down the food thain than those players you mention.

By the way, of course, further huge congrats to Heather on her great start to the year.

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As Lauras Miami points come off after this tounament, Naomi should become Britains doubles No 1. Just thought I'd mention that!

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Can someone help me as i find the WTA sites idea of a points breakdown much more confusing than the ATP's.

Heather Watson - 530points

Breakdown:
Australian Open - 40points
US Open - 5points
Wimbledon - 5points
French Open - 5points

Miami - 10points
Indian Wells - 65points
Sydney - 13points
Brisbane - 25points
Beijing - 5points
Tokyo - 20points
New Haven - 1point
Cincinnati - 20points
Toronto - 1point
Eastbourne - 60points

Acapulco - 1point*
Luxembourg - 1point*
Osaka - 1point*
Seoul - 1point*
Washington - 30points
Birmingham - 15points

*Do not count

Top 16 points = 320points??

I think some of the premier's prior to Eastbourne are missing i'm not totally sure tbh? anyone know what i'm missing. ty

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Use Steven's tables there always spot on.

www.britishtennis.net/stats/ptdf.htm

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tommymac wrote:

Can someone help me as i find the WTA sites idea of a points breakdown much more confusing than the ATP's.

Heather Watson - 530points

Breakdown:
Australian Open - 40points
US Open - 5points
Wimbledon - 5points
French Open - 5points

Miami - 10points
Indian Wells - 65points
Sydney - 13points
Brisbane - 25points
Beijing - 5points
Tokyo - 20points
New Haven - 1point
Cincinnati - 20points
Toronto - 1point
Eastbourne - 60points

Acapulco - 1point*
Luxembourg - 1point*
Osaka - 1point*
Seoul - 1point*
Washington - 30points
Birmingham - 15points

*Do not count

Top 16 points = 320points??

I think some of the premier's prior to Eastbourne are missing i'm not totally sure tbh? anyone know what i'm missing. ty


Believe it or not, the WTA site breakdowns don't include ITFs (or at least, they didn't when I last looked and your figures seem to confirm this) -  one of the reasons why I've done my own for the GB women - see www.britishtennis.net/stats/ptdf.htm 

You're missing 140 points for her Midland win in February, 70 for Poitiers 100K SF in October and 30 for Barnstaple 75K QF in November, while Birmingham (15) and Sydney (13) are actually non-counters, as are Toronto (1) and New Haven (1), since while they are Premiers, they are not mandatories, and she only played qualifying anyway. So that gives you your total of 320 + 240 - 30 = 530.

Edit: Strange - I could have saved myself the trouble (thanks paulisi) but paulisi's post didn't appear when I looked at the thread 5-10 minutes ago despite him posting it over half an hour ago. Hopefully the reconciliation between the 320 and 530 figures might have helped though.

 

 



-- Edited by steven on Thursday 3rd of April 2014 12:21:37 PM

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Yes, the WTA really could do with proper tabular ranking breakdown tables for the women ( singles and doubles ).

The ATP site has proper singles and doubles breakdowns for the men and the ITF has breakdowns for the juniors.

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Thanks i'd totally forgotten about your other tables steven haha, seems abit daft that the WTA don't include ITF points, i'm sure it would make life alot easier for everyone if they did! Anyway thanks for solving my problem guys A+ :)

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Steven has all the breakdowns of all the GB players on his stats page, see the link in his signature.

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