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No British players were left in the singles by day 5 this year, the first time that's happened for 17 years. Speaking to reporters after his defeat to Feliciano Lopez in rd2 yesterday, Henman said "Yeah, it's depressing. I think for years we've been far too accepting of mediocrity. I think you look at some of the players, they need a little bit of a wake up call to realise the level of play and competition worldwide is very, very high."

The British no 2 suggested that many of the players supported by the LTA who get wildcards into Wimbledon do not deserve them."There's a lot of players that I don't think warrant that (the wildcards). We have to be a little bit more ruthless and wipe the slate clean and start really targeting the younger ones because that is going to be our future. There's always talk about wildcards. You know, wildcards are a fantastic opportunity. But if you're any good, you don't need wildcards. You get one at 17 or 18 but if you're any good, in a couple of years you should be looking to get into these events on your ranking."

LTA chief executive Roger Draper backed Henman's comments saying "We are here to support the players, that's what we want to do." 

"But we only really need to support the players that have got a hard work ethic - players who are prepared to go the extra mile on and off the court. We always said that after these championships we would have some tough decisions to make in terms of the players. What we are also doing is focusing very much on the youngsters, getting more of the 12, 13 and 14-year-olds through so that we can develop a more professional approach so that when they do hit 18, 19 or 20 we are not doing any repair work."

Asked if British tennis needed a wake-up call, Draper, who took up the role at the LTA last April after being the chief executive of Sport England, replied: "We knew that already before this championships. The rankings lists don't lie, the results don't lie, we are in a results business. At the end of the day, it's about winning, so the reason we made the changes we did last year was to actually start getting some traction into British tennis. We have made some positive moves but it is going to take time for results to come through. You look at people like Elena Baltacha, Naomi Cavaday, Katie O'Brien, they have put in some fantastic hard work over the last few weeks. All 3 will hopefully be in the top 100 soon."



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Jo durie decides to wade in the argumnt by defending the girls, although decides to slag off alex at the end? is this a just a sympotom of the negativity surrounding the sport?

Jo Durie, the former British No1, last night warned the tennis establishment to lay off Katie OBrien and the rest of the countrys under-fire female players and insisted they are working hard enough unlike some of the boys.

Durie, a Wimbledon quarter-finalist and French Open semi-finalist at the peak of her career as world No5 in 1983, hit back at LTA chief Roger Draper, who attacked Britains youngsters earlier in the week as lacking in motivation and fitness, and threatened to cut their funding.

Tim Henman, after going out to Feliciano Lopez, blasted the young Brits as gutless underachievers after the worst Wimbledon display for 17 years. Not a single home-grown player made it to the third round of the mens or womens singles.

But Durie, who now coaches Elena Baltacha, another first-round loser, insisted it was not fair to heap the blame on the current crop of girls such as Yorkshires OBrien, the sole British female to win this year.

Durie said: Its not fair to blame Katie and the other girls. Shes doing her best, trying her hardest they all are. So lets not blame her, please. Give the girl a break. All of them.

I know how hard Elena works. Theres no way she isnt putting 100 per cent in otherwise we wouldnt work with her.
Its difficult to speak for other players when I dont know their routines. But Ive watched them and they do put the effort in. The womens tour is really hard, and if you dont put it in, its obvious. Our girls do. Maybe theyre just not good enough at the moment, but theyre certainly working towards it.

But Durie put the boot in on our young male players, accusing some of them of coasting ­ especially No1 Alex Bogdanovic. She added: Out on tour the girls probably get more wins. In the mens side Ive seen a few coasters. With Alex everyone would say he has talent, but why doesnt he put the hard work in? If he was honest with himself surely he must know that is right.

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Kick up the backside deserved equally by both sexes, it seems to me.  We fans are being far too indulgent! eyepopping.gif  Who better to aim one at the men than Timbo, the most successful British male tennis player since Fred Perry in the 1930s?  Shame that Jo Durie should see fit to defend the women so unquestioningly, though to be fair, Bally has had to battle back from serious,  long-term injury & seems now to be poised to make her mark again, if she can but stay fit.  Katie O'B still has a long way to go in terms of resilience, but, even at 21, may already be past it in age terms... cry  That said, I'm inclined to agree with her about Boggo if he hasn't by now decided that a change in attitude is necessary & to start putting in the work in the gym &, arguably more importantly, on the mental toughening-up that will bring him the rewards consistent with his obvious tennis talent! 


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i know i am the most ardent boggo fan, but its such a poor defence, saying that he's worse, its like kids with my dad is bigger than yours!!

yes the womans tour is hard, but i think the mens is too Jo!!

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A partial riposte (from yesterday's Times)?

Cox work ethic the perfect volley for critics of system

In search of some answers, we set off yesterday not for Wimbledon, but for the National Tennis Centre. The annual "what's wrong with our game" debate was fuelled by Roger Draper, the LTA chief executive, who hammered his players' lack of fitness and poor standards and then by Tim Henman, who criticised a culture of mediocrity in which money has bred an easy life. At tennis's gleaming new high-performance centre, then, you half expected to see Britain's young hopefuls lolling in armchairs watching Australian soaps, though the first item to report is that many of them did actually seem to be working rather hard.

Secondly, after a decent hit on court with Daniel Cox, a 16-year-old rated one of the top three in his age group in the country, we can also happily report that he had the edge on your man from The Times. And that was the case before he admitted that he had been coasting at 60 per cent. What was really striking, though, was that the rocket directed up the backsides of the Henmans of the future fails to have exploded here. No, the National Tennis Centre was not abuzz with wannabes terrified about mediocrity and lack of fitness.

Cox shares digs in Putney with Josh Milton and David Rice, two others who have hopes of great futures, and yet he had not even heard of the daily invective coming from down the hill at SW19. Indeed, what really confused Cox was that he did not really know who it was that Henman thought was underperforming. "I don't really know which generation he's talking about," he said. And Alex Bogdanovic, of whom Draper was particularly scathing, is a player whom Cox admires.

On the subject of standards, what was also interesting was that Cox, who is trained and funded by the LTA, has not been given any specific goals with which to map his future. "I don't know what happens from here," he said. "I've got no specific targets. The emphasis right now is just on developing your game."

That is not, for a moment, to suggest that Cox does not demand anything but the very best of himself. It is just interesting that the leaders in the game are berating standards and yet their brightest young things do not seem to know what the required standards are. We should hope, therefore, that the standards are just becoming unconsciously ingrained. An average training day for Cox involves four hours' hitting and two gym sessions. "We basically eat, sleep and play tennis," he said. "We don't go out partying. There is definitely not an easy life here. We really do work hard, they definitely push us hard. And we were never expecting it to be easy anyway. I think all of us want to get to a really high level and I don't think there is anything to stop us. We all want to show that we can do it. I feel I have a great chance with the set-up I have at the moment. Henman, [Andy] Murray and Bogdanovich - we need more of them and I think that is starting to happen."

A comment on the opportunities that the new National Tennis Centre provides is the fact that Cox came back from Spain to embrace it. When he was 13, the Cox family moved there to help him to progress in his sport, but now, with the two obligatory foreign coaches, he believes that he can make more of himself at home. Last year, he was the youngest player in the boys' singles event at Wimbledon and won a match. He hopes to go better this time, but simultaneously joins the chorus giving warning against setting expectations too high too soon.

To set all this in perspective, Cox - who is still young - is ranked No 58 among the world's juniors, while above him Britain has a No 24 and a No 32. In looking for the "new generation", no one wants to wait any longer than these boys, though it is widely agreed that the 13 and 14-year-olds have the greatest promise. The old truth is that no one ever rated Henman as the greatest young thing and he drove himself to the top. The point about Cox and his generation is the road ahead should now be so much clearer.



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Last year, he was the youngest player in the boys' singles event at Wimbledon ....




No. Elias is a little younger than him and he played Wimbly last year.

But he didn't win a match.




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I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that Jamie defends his work ethic and Alex talks about talented players.

The problem with sweeping generalisations (including this one) is that you can always come up with an exception and assert therefore that the gist of statement is false.

I have always believed that the LTA has too much money available. Players, parents etc can always blame the LTA for the lack of support etc. How much support do you think the Serbian Tennis Association provides? People always talk about Andy going to Spain in a disparaging manner, yet Djokavic learnt his game in Paris. 

I believe the biggest failing of the LTA over the recent years is not recognising the role and influence of good coaching. By that I do not mean the big names but equipping coaches to do their job better and treating them with respect. Coaches provide the future of the game palyers are just transitory. Tim is coming to the end of his playing career, David Felgate is still coaching.

One result of tennis being an seen as a middle-class game in Britain may be that British players do not see tennis as the means to change their lifestyle as much as the Serbians or the Russians. For them tennis truly is a life changing experience.

Having said all that I do not believe in washing one's dirty laundry in Public. Some things have to be said to express desire to change but I hope that it is expressed much more forcefully and appropriately targetted behehind closed doors.



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Stircrazy wrote:

Now the Indy jumps on the bandwagon, yesterday & today! wink



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john wrote:

Stircrazy wrote:

Now the Indy jumps on the bandwagon, yesterday & today! wink



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 It's worked for me john.biggrin Try again!
I don't totally agree with you, Robxon, about the fact that tennis is seen as a middle-class sport because others don't see it as way to better themselves.There has been a massive shift in the teaching of all sports in schools, not all for the good, and I'm betting tennis has been a sport to suffer. Building has been done on school tennis courts and playing fields sold off. Where can a less well of kid get the chance to play tennis? Who out there is looking for these kids who may be naturally gifted but who need to be encouraged to pick up a racket? This is the challenge the LTA have, making it more accessible for all.cry
  As for coaches, I was talking to friend a couple of weeks ago, her son was a boy who loved hitting balls with a racket and they were lucky enough to be able to join a tennis club. After a few weeks he no longer wanted to go, why? His coach was trying to make him play right-handed, the kid is a leftie! confused Yes, I realise this is a one-off incident but it still has put one youngster off playing the game.



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Oops, dunno what happened there!  This is the second article:

The Nick Townsend column: Terminal Thursday is groundhog day for Britain's failures

British tennis is elitist, accepts mediocrity and, with the exception of a notable few, lazy. Yet the will to change this culture does exist

The Nick Townsend column: Terminal Thursday is groundhog day for Britain's failures Henman waves goodbye for another year

Just before 4.20pm on Thursday, and a 32-year-old with a dodgy frame had the crowd screaming at the top of its xenophobic lungs for a final time at this All England Championships. Who knows? Maybe for the last time, period, and with it the passing of a rite of summer, that tortured cry from within Centre Court of "Come on, Tim..."

Like a dragonfly, Tim Henman's life-span during this tournament was transitory, though not quite as fleeting as we might have expected. The British No 2 imposed himself on our consciousness, and specifically on those of his fanatical supporters, during two keenly fought five-setters, the defeat of Carlos Moya and the elimination by Feliciano Lopez, before he departed Centre Court, heaving those kit bags on shoulders which have for so long borne an unreasonable burden of home expectancy.

Unsurprisingly, the only Briton here by right of his ranking - of the others, 10 had wildcard entries and another was a qualifier - was the last British competitor standing. At the start of the week, we had counted them out. By Terminal Thursday, we had counted them all back in. In the absence of Andy Murray it was a home guard as seemingly ill-prepared for the task as Captain Mainwaring's mob. And Tiger Tim, from a position of authority on the subject, roared his discontent as he surveyed the wreckage of British ambition, damning the "acceptance of mediocrity".

He was not alone. In one of those periodic bouts of self-recrimination which British tennis so relishes, it duly inflicted on itself a particularly bloody nose. We've been here before many times, of course, and once again the name of Fred Perry, three times champion in the 1930s and inexorably linked with Wimbledon, was hoisted aloft to taunt the current generation.

Some will contend that the British game is no more likely to stagger to its feet this time around than in previous years. Yet there are positive signs: in the recruitment of leading coaches, including Brad Gilbert; the appointment of Roger Draper, the former Sport England chief executive, as LTA chief 14 months ago; and improved facilities, including the £30 million National Tennis Centre at Roehampton. And, not least, there is hope in the shape of an exasperated Henman, the former world No 4 renaissance man, who will remain a valuable sphere of influence, even when his on-court appearances finally draw to a close. As Draper says of him: "He works harder than everybody else and sets the example in terms of discipline and training."

Just as crucially, there is also Murray, on this occasion the too-good-to-hurry man following his wrist injury, but a player who can demonstrate that you don't need rounded English vowels to match your exquisite volleys to succeed at the highest level in tennis. In the brooding yet inspirational presence of the 20-year-old Scot, the British game has a character who can instil a sense of "cool" into a sport damned by perception.

That is always assuming that youth gets its chance to flourish in the first place at local level. Here, inclusivity has to be the watchword. "It's important that clubs encourage the kids," says John Lloyd, Britain's Davis Cup captain. "Some don't like them playing at all, and if they do they shove them on at eight o'clock at night when the adults have had their fill. If they [children] are not encouraged, those clubs' allocation of Wimbledon tickets should be stopped."

He adds: "One area Roger Draper is concentrating on is at the grass roots; making the tennis clubs in this country much more open, and not as stiff as they are. We've got to show people that this is not a public school sport. At the moment it still has that upper-class image, and we've got to change that. I think Andy Murray could have a big say in that when he wins a Grand Slam event, which I think he will at some stage. If there are 100 people who take up sport, unfortunately only one will take up tennis. We need to poach them from sports like football and show them that tennis is the sport to play."

However, even when talent which can be nurtured exists, the suspicion prevails that too many British performers lack a real desire, preferring to operate in a comfort zone and whingeing when they awake to discover their insular world has tilted slightly on its axis. Hence the charge of the Briton Josh Goodall, world ranking 226, that the suspension of his coach, Peter Lundgren (after complaints he had been slurring when addressing a training conference last weekend) was an explanation for him underperforming in his straight-sets defeat. Paul Annacone, Henman's coach and the LTA's head coach of men's tennis, spoke for many when he declared: "This is Wimbledon, and if you are a professional athlete and confronted with adversity then it's about accepting the challenge that's put in front of you."

Whether it is an absence of real craving for success among too many British performers compared with their counterparts in countries such as Serbia, which has contrived to produce three players in the world's top 10, or whether it is a dearth of tennis courts contrasted with France, who have 12 men in the top 100, is difficult to identify. But at least Draper is confronting the problem square-on. Even before Wimbledon, he had issued a warning to those not prepared to invest fully in the future, of their own game and of British tennis. The week's events have merely confirmed how apposite were his words.

"We only really need to support the players that have got a hard-work ethic - players who are prepared to go the extra mile, on and off the court," he had said. "Probably my biggest disappointment this last year was that the behaviour of people in British tennis is not really conducive to winning and success."

And this, probably the most pertinent observation: "People have got to either get behind what we're trying to do or go and do something else."

The morning before Henman eventually capitulated, Katie O'Brien, the British women's No 1, though more significantly the world 154, had her limitations exposed in the second round, cruelly so, by the Dutch teenager Michaëlla Krajicek.

At least her progress to round two will propel O'Brien to 120 in the world, and she spoke enthusiastically of improvement. "Hopefully I can crack into the top 100 sooner rather than later," she said.

Yet then asked about Draper's observation that one of the problems of British tennis was "changing the culture and making sure that our athletes are educated, not just from a social point of view, but from a strength and conditioning point of view", O'Brien confessed: "For me, I could definitely be in better shape. But I'm in much better shape than I was earlier this year. At least I'm moving in the right direction. I know it's an area I need to work on."

Some may observe that, at her age, 21, it's a bit late for that. But there at least was a refreshing honesty about that admission, and her agreement that LTA criticism of British players was justified.

"I think so. I mean, the LTA have given all the players fantastic opportunities," she said. "I think some people just sit there and take it, don't put in the hard work themselves." In a week of soul-searching for British tennis, such candour at least is a move off the baseline of complacency.



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Just in case anyone else has the same problem as john, this is the first Indy article:

We have got talent and commitment, insist British duo

by Nick Harris at Wimbledon

As the LTA's chief executive, Roger Draper, warned yesterday that only those players who are prepared "to go the extra mile" would get support from the LTA, two of the country's up-and-coming players, Alex Bogdanovic and Jamie Baker, hit back at claims of a culture of complacency.

Tim Henman had reignited the debate about the state of the British game on Thursday when he said that the country had been "too accepting of mediocrity", that "a lot of players don't warrant [LTA money]", and that it was time to "wipe the slate clean".

Despite millions of pounds of LTA money being invested in the game, only Andy Murray, the world No 8, can truly count himself among the world's elite. Henman is the next British player in the rankings at No 78 and the British women's No 1, Katie O'Brien, is No 154 in the world.

But in an impassioned defence of his commitment, Baker detailed his punishing gym and training sessions, and said: "I know I could not give any more on a daily basis to my profession, and I've done that since I was 10 years old when I decided to become a tennis player. And I'll keep doing that till I stop playing tennis. It's as simple as that."

Bogdanovic denied that British players simply were not good enough. "You can't say that," he said. "We have a lot of talented players in this country. I think we can all make it. Sometimes it comes down to belief and the team that's behind you.

"It doesn't happen overnight. Just because this Wimbledon didn't go too well, I think we don't have to be negative about it because we've got a long future ahead of us. I feel like there's a lot of great players coming up. One of my goals is to break the top 100.

"I believe I'm going in the right direction. I'm making progress. All I can do is give 100 per cent every time I step out. You've got to put a lot of hard work behind it and you've got to be willing to do that."

Bogdanovic, 23, is the British No 3 and world No 108, and Baker is the British No 6 and world No 238. The last Briton in either singles event was Henman, who went out on Thursday, making this Britain's worst performance here for 17 years.

But hopes remain in the doubles. Murray was here yesterday, along with mother, Judy, to cheer his brother to a notable victory. Jamie Murray, combining with his regular partner, Eric Butorac, reached the third round of the men's doubles by beating the No7 seeds, Israel's Davis Cup pair of Jonathan Erlich and Andy Ram, 3-6, 6-4, 6-3, 6-4, in front of a packed crowd on No 14 Court.

The dire state of the British game in general had led Draper to question the fitness and application of some British players earlier in the week and he vowed to cut the funding of those who show no sign of making the world's top 100.

"We are here to support the players, that's what we want to do," he said. "But we only really need to support the players that have got a hard work ethic, players who are prepared to go the extra mile, on and off the court. We always said that after these championships we would have some tough decisions to make in terms of the players.

"What we are also doing is focusing very much on the youngsters, getting more of the 12, 13 and 14-year-olds through so that we can develop a more professional approach, so that when they do hit 18, 19 or 20 we are not doing any repair work."

Asked if British tennis needed a wake-up call, Draper replied: "We knew that already before these championships. The rankings lists don't lie, the results don't lie, we are in a results business."

While O'Brien was the only British woman to progress past the first round, Elena Baltacha has impressed on her return from a serious back injury and Naomi Cavaday had two match points against the former Wimbledon champion Martina Hingis.

Draper is hopeful their hard work will be repaid by the trio reaching the top 100. "You have always got to support those senior players who are working hard and who have got potential," he added. "You look at people like Elena Baltacha, Naomi Cavaday, Katie O'Brien, they have put in some fantastic hard work over the last few weeks. Katie will, hopefully, get in the top 100, and Baltacha and Naomi as well on the girls' side."





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I think that this is part of the annual 'why are there no more Brits in winning at Wimbledon?' debate that appears in the media and therefore shouldn't be taken too seriously. This year the events with Lundgren and Murray being out (and so not masking the other results) have made it more personal than usual.

However, one thing I do agree with is Paul Hutchins comment that there is a 'blame culture' in British tennis. In this instance it's the lta blaming the players for not working hard enough and not maximising their potential. Which may or may not be true but it's not something that should be said through the media in my opinion.

Some of the accusations towards specific players have annoyed me - take Boggo two weeks ago the lta and everyone were singing his praises about how he's really turned a corner, is putting the work in has sorted his head out. Suddenly, a first round loss against someone playing far above their ranking, who probably would've beaten Tim (in my opinion, from watching the match) and the implications are that it's becuase he didn't work hard enough. It almost makes me think maybe we shouldn't give wildcards to any Brits, at least that way they wouldn't be expected to beat players ranked far above them, yes sometimes an upset happens but the media (and seemingly the lta as well) cannot expect it to happen and should not be nearly so negative about a loss. They need to see the flip side and say, if it was Murray playing the french wildcard in Paris you'd be extremely surprised if he lost so why should Katie O'Brien beat the 19th seed in round 2? But I guess it sells papers so i'll just have to continue to get annoyed or stop reading the articles smile.gif

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