ATP Las Vegas 2007.

seagull · Hall of fame

ATP Las Vegas 2007.

Salmon · Tennis legend

I agree. I am pretty confident now that it'll be kicked out soon.

If the players themselves don't understand the thing....

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

So, if the rules can be bent for Blake, why weren't they bent for Ferrero last week?

The whole thing is a complete fiasco - as about 99% of people on message boards everywhere have said from the start. I really don't know where Mr Disney gets the "the fans want RR" idea from.

Count Zero · Tennis legend

dumb situation, really, i think tho a retirement should count as a loss and assume no further games won by the retiree (is that a word) so in bales case it becmoes 61,61

with this system there is always the risk of matches being a bit dodgy in the outcome.

RobC · All-time great

seagull wrote:

Blake goes through despite the rules saying Korolev should have done!

What a disgrace - the final nail in the RR coffin

Well done to Hewitt and Safin for sticking up for Korolev

How'd you work that one out, Saegull? I thought Blake's gone through on % games won?

seagull · Hall of fame

Nope - The rules state if a retirement occurs that match does not count therfore it goes to h2h between Blake and Korolev (which of course Blake loses)

However ATP decided either
' Blake would have won by the required scoreline' or
' players did not understand the rules'

Paid Korolev off with a bit more prize money...however Safin and Hewitt are really annoyed with the decision

imoen · Admin: Moderator+Tennis Legend

I'm not surprised Safin and Hewitt are annoyed by the decision. Can't believe they bent the rules, that's disgraceful, it's as bad as someone losing int eh knockout stage but going through anyway just won't be seen as such becuase no one understands the RR rules.

johnnylad · Tennis legend

This is a disgrace

RobC · All-time great

ouch. not good.

- can you imagine the pressure on a player not to retire: his opponent woudl be saying - "you can't stop now - the other guy will go through"

scoobsuk · Club Coach

There's a petition been put together to state the REAL fans' views on RR ready for a meeting they're having in 3 weeks in Miami to review the format. It will be sent to the relevant people prior to that meeting.

Please sign it, and please pass it on to anyone else on other boards, etc, who might be interested in signing it.

http://www.petitiononline.com/nomorerr/petition.html

Thanks

Count Zero · Tennis legend

blake has been knocked out after atp say reinstatment was a mistake

RobC · All-time great

well done the ATP! come to their senses!

scoobsuk · Club Coach

Yes...and now they have a job on their hands cleaning up the mess this fiasco has left...it's made the ATP look almost criminally stupid for nearly 24 hours.

mkkreuk · Admin:Moderator + ATP qualifying

Surely this marks the death of the round robin in tennis?

Please someone see sense.

john · Top national player

Rules state, if two players are tied, it comes down to head to head. Korolev beat Blake so he goes through. Percentage of games won is irrelevant. This only counts if 3 players are tied. They weren't, because Del Potro only completed 1 game and is therefore automatically below the other 2. I read the rules once and understood this. How come the guys organising the tournament didnt? How ridiculous to just ignore the rules in order to put the more popular player through!