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congrats tatjana maria 30yo mum on tour making her 1st wta final in mallorca today

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And congrats to Amelie Mauresmo (and the French tennis federation) as Amelie becomes the first woman to captain France's Davis Cup team.

This comment seems a bit overkill, however:

'French tennis federation (FFT) president Bernard Giudicelli described the decision as "completely groundbreaking".'

Amelie was very gracious in giving huge thanks to Andy, saying that it was thanks to his confidence (in the face of derision) that this day was possible



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Saturday 23rd of June 2018 08:28:20 PM

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Coup Droit wrote:

And congrats to Amelie Mauresmo (and the French tennis federation) as Amelie becomes the first woman to captain France's Davis Cup team.

This comment seems a bit overkill, however:

'French tennis federation (FFT) president Bernard Giudicelli described the decision as "completely groundbreaking".'

Amelie was very gracious in giving huge thanks to Andy, saying that it was thanks to his confidence (in the face of derision) that this day was possible



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Saturday 23rd of June 2018 08:28:20 PM


Yes, the groundbreaking was by Andy, not the FFT. For it to be groundbreaking for the FFT they would have to have appointed a woman who has not already shown that she can coach successfully a male grand slam winner.



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Well I think of the French as more sexist than we are (although I don't profess to know lots about their culture), so maybe for them it is groundbreaking.

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Helen40 wrote:

Well I think of the French as more sexist than we are (although I don't profess to know lots about their culture), so maybe for them it is groundbreaking.


Off topic, sorry .....

In important ways, I don't actually think the French are more sexist - there's a high number of women in positions of power, for instance, and that is thought of as quite normal.

Currently France are 6th in Europe for female MPs (in front of the UK). Corporate board membership is about 35% (as opposed to EU average of 22% and USA of 20%). Huger number of women in the civil service. 

But there definitely is an expectation that women should be attractive - there's no escaping it. 

However, attractive means 'well-turned' out, not necessarily born 'pretty'. So it's not judging people by how God made them, so much, as how they present themselves to the world. And, yes, women are expected to take the effort to 'present' well. (I don't know if it's still true but I remember in Economics learning that France was the only country that included a weekly 'hair-do' as part of its basic basket for calculation of inflation purposes). 

However, the same does apply to men, in a way, too - clothes and hair count. (Probably not to the same extent though, it's true)

The one rather funny overtly sexist thing that makes me laugh, however, is that a huge chunk of French tv and homegrown movies is based round the idea of a 50 year-old guy getting it together with some 23 year-old girl. Presenters are always the same. Older guy. Young girl. You can't escape it - in fact, each time, you just think, Oh Lord, here we go again. It's obviously a reflection of the director/script-writers/whoever's dreams/perceptions of themselves and their fantasy world..... (and, yes, the domestic film industry is old-school - way too many men - they need female directors and script-writers !)

Overall, though, I find France to be pretty good, certainly as good if not better than the UK, although probably slightly less PC, but I don't rate that much anyway.

However, the president of the FFT comes from Corsica, born and bred there. Worked there. I've never been but it's possible that, for Corsica, it's more of a big deal, having a woman.

But yes, Andy did the groundbreaking part. And he's a true egalitarian - the lad's a role model in that regard (and many others).  

 



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Sunday 24th of June 2018 09:45:21 AM

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Coup Droit wrote:

And congrats to Amelie Mauresmo (and the French tennis federation) as Amelie becomes the first woman to captain France's Davis Cup team.

This comment seems a bit overkill, however:

'French tennis federation (FFT) president Bernard Giudicelli described the decision as "completely groundbreaking".'

Amelie was very gracious in giving huge thanks to Andy, saying that it was thanks to his confidence (in the face of derision) that this day was possible



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Saturday 23rd of June 2018 08:28:20 PM


 Here is the quote: https://twitter.com/christophclarey/status/1010503712413011968



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The only thing I maybe question is how good a coach Amelie actually was for Andy, purely as a coach.


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The only thing I maybe question is how good a coach Amelie actually was for Andy, purely as a coach.


 Well, Clayray became a force...so maybe his clay game? I guess the bad thing is, is that she was coach post back surgery so that skews things to an unknown degree. Only Andy, his team and Amelie herself can probably answer that question.



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TomTraubert wrote:

congrats tatjana maria 30yo mum on tour making her 1st wta final in mallorca today


and she won the title nice story



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Just finished watching the Moscow River Cup final, a really good match played in a Fed Cup like atmosphere.
Congratulations to the two 17 yo participants: champion, Olga Danilovic and runner-up, Anastasia Potapova.
Danilovic is the first LL to ever win a WTA title (having lost to Badosa Gibert in FQR); she beat top seed Goerges, Kanepi & AK SCmiedlova en route to the title.
Thing about the Serb is, she's basically Naomi Broady, with a two-handed BH, and better... everything.

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Zsombor Piros of Hungary beat Jiri Vesely in Davis Cup today in 5 sets. Wow you say - Piros is world 1550 or thereabouts, won in a 5 set tussle and it was pretty impressive for a teenager. Piros beat Billy Harris in Spain F17 back in July it should be noted. Well done to the young man

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This is for a career. Daniel Nestor played his last match last night in Davis cup, one of 6 players (Federer, connors, lendl, Mike Bryan, Bob Bryan) to win 1000 pro matches.

Happy retirement to him!

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Congratulations to 16 year-old Whitney Osuigwe (born April 2002), who's made the 80k final in the US, beating Bencic (WTA 39, ex 7), in a third-set TB.

And she was playing at Roehampton, in the G1 juniors, only a couple of months ago

Still remember her dad nagging/encouraging/cajoling her to go and warm-up. And Whitney, a little teenager-ish and sulky, refusing, like, 'nah, Dad, leave me alone'. It made you smile.

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