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Week 41 - Greece F14 ($10,000) - Marathon (Hard)


Once again Richard Gabb will be in the main draw here.

QR1: Aaron Banasik UNR v Alexandros Siderakos (GRE) UNR



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QR1: Aaron Banasik UNR beat Alexandros Siderakos (GRE) UNR : 6-4, 6-4

QR2: Aaron Banasik UNR v Christos Antonopoulos (GRE) UNR

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QR2: Aaron Banasik UNR beat Christos Antonopoulos (GRE) UNR : 6-1, 6-0

FQR: Aaron Banasik UNR v Adrian Bodmer (SUI) UNR

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and this time he gets the reward of a 'JE' entry in the MD ! (Junior exempt ?)

L32 : Aaron Banasik UNR v Nikola Milojevic (SRB) age 18



Yes - Milojevic is the current world junior no. 5 and was no. 1 in January and actually has an ATP ranking today, 842, after winning the title the week before last - it was the first Futures event he had ever entered too. He also reached the QFs last week. Hence definitely not a nice draw for Aaron this week!  



-- Edited by steven on Monday 7th of October 2013 03:50:16 PM

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Another good qualification from Aaron:

FQR: Aaron Banasik UNR def. Adrian Bodmer (SUI) UNR 6-4 7-5

and this time he gets the reward of a 'JE' entry in the MD ! (Junior exempt ?)

L32 : Aaron Banasik UNR v Nikola Milojevic (SRB) age 18

L32 : (5) Richard Gabb WR 477 v (Q) Kevin Kylar (CAN) UNR

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Richard's giving the doubles a go this week as well, but he & his partner have a cr@p draw:

R1:  Richard Gabb & Tobias Simon (GER) UNR vs (3) Roy Hobbs & Ken Onoda (SIN/JPN) CR 2914 cry



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Richard's giving the doubles a go this week as well, but he & his partner have a cr@p draw:

R1:  Richard Gabb & Tobias Simon (GER) UNR vs (3) Roy Hobbs & Ken Onoda (SIN/JPN) CR 2914 cry


How is it a crap draw really? This CR thing is a complete and utter nonsense and you can read NOTHING into it, particularly at this level.

Richard and partner are much stronger singles players both currently and historically, and only injury or them not caring will prevent them from winning this match easily.

Tobias Simon does not have a doubles ranking - this is the only reason they appear unranked. Gabb's doubles ranking is 307.

Onoda's doubles ranking is entirely from reaching one semi final at a Japanese futures 11 and a half months ago. He has played only one other professional doubles tournament since then in April this year and did not win any points.

Hobb's doubles ranking comes from one semi final at an Indonesian futures 10 months ago. He has played 6 professional doubles tournaments since then and not scored a single point and has two further 0 pointers on his record from December last year.



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Thanks for putting such context into the doubles draw, johnnylad.

I think you go far too far to say that the "CR thing is a complete and utter nonsense and you can read NOTHING into it."

What is certainly true is there are issues, "particularly at this level" and many folk will be aware of the issues generally, but may still like to see CRs.

Re this sort of level, as you have shown a CR of 2914 can amount to very little. Just looking at the doubles rankings, you can individually be ranked inside the top 1500 with just 8 points, and it can generally take not a lot to get say 8 points each in futures doubles ! ( eg. could be one 15K SF achieved by a bye and a victory over an unranked ( and in this case unworthy ) pair.

In fact, I have been taking a bit more notice of future doubles draws lately. And I am afraid that rather than give me more appreciation of success at this level, I have come to realise how little it can sometimes take to earn success.

First round byes and withdrawals very often mean no more than 3 matches ( it can be less ! ) are required to win a tournament. Quarter final, even semi final draws can be very weak. And that's not even going into the debate about how seriously many pairs take it.

Well done to the guys that chalk up a lot of future wins such as Rice & Thornley and now Willis & Burton, and clearly some of these title wins will be tougher than others. But futures is no great testing ground of real potential in doubles, that begins with challengers.

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Johnnylad and Indeh with some unpleasant truths.

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Your additions prove that for Onoda and Hobbs to have 9 futures tournaments between them where they scored 0 points MUST mean they are not a crap draw.

The CR is very often very misleading - I will concdede that for Challengers up it can be useful but adding singles rankings together is still a much better indicator for futures draws regardless of the few chosen players with "excellent hands at the net" and only a backhand who choose to concentrate on half a court.

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Oh, re that particular draw I assuredly agree. It is certainly not a crap draw.

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Milojevic takes the 1st set against Aaron 6-1

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L32 : Aaron Banasik UNR lost to Nikola Milojevic (SRB) age 18 6-1 6-3

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R1:  Richard Gabb & Tobias Simon (GER) UNR defeated (3) Roy Hobbs & Ken Onoda (SIN/JPN) CR 2914 by 2 & 1 smile

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QF:  (WC) Alejandro Capdequi & Eleftherios Theodorou (GRE/GRE) UNR vs Richard Gabb & Tobias Simon (GER) UNR

 

Just waiting for johnnylad to say "I told you so"! evileye



-- Edited by Stircrazy on Wednesday 9th of October 2013 02:28:09 PM

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Richard wins the first set 6-0

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