Doping Again !

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Doping Again !

JonH · All-time great

Indeed. I think the post menopausal tablets where her mums apparently, left all around the kitchen

Oakland2002 · All-time great

They must really know what they are doing if by any chance it was performance enhancement as opposed to an accident. I presume the advantages are to get oestrogen levels spot on despite the side effect of the additional aromatisable androgen taken to build lean body mass which is converted to additional oestrogen. You then take that out to reduce water retention and significant gynaecomatia? An educated guess but the exact rational would be interesting.

steven · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
CAS does on the whole seems to do a good job ( although I am sure their are many cases where folk would disagree ).

Didn't they in the Aljaz Bedene Davis Cup business make their legal judgement that they couldn't overturn the ITF ruling, but that it effectively did think the ITF were being very silly Billys and should have a think about things - unfortunately to no avail.

I agree with your first sentence in general but they seem to have made a real mess of this one. If they thought it was deliberate, then a *very* long ban would be in order, but if they accept that it was innocent (as they seem to have), then lengthening the ban and messing her around so much in the meantime seems very unfair to me.

indiana · Tennis legend

It's perhaps - we'll say that we accept that you are innocent, but you're not really are you ( though we can't prove that ), so how about we lengthen it a bit from the preposterous initial ban to just a length that everyone can get on with life.

Next ...

Also, possibly making the point re what is often said that an athlete is responsible for what goes into their body. I think often easier said than done but in this case if she and her family are truly that careless, well example made!

She may find sympathy rather limited.

-- Edited by indiana on Monday 11th of June 2018 09:47:01 PM

Strongbow · All-time great

indiana wrote:
It's perhaps - we'll say that we accept that you are innocent, but you're not really are you ( though we can't prove that ), so how about we lengthen it a bit from the preposterous initial ban to just a length that everyone can get on with life.

Next ...

The Sensational Alex Harvey Band

Oakland2002 · All-time great

I totally agree with Indi on this one, difficult to prove lots of likely nonsense provided in mitigation. It is a drug that is involved in illegally increasing lean body mass and one that cannot be found in the blood stream or urine of athletes.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Completely agree with Indy.

The ITF page says:

"Following a hearing on 9 November 2017, the CAS panel found that Ms. Errani had demonstrated (but only just) the source of the letrozole found in her sample and that her fault lay in the upper end of the light range."

The 'but only just' phrase says it all. Basically, they don't really believe her.

The fact that the Italian authorities were appealing against the ban being too lenient is also telling.

(NB don't quite understand Oakie why you say the drug cannot be found in the bloodstream or urine of the athletes - it was in her urine sample of 16/2/17)

Oakland2002 · All-time great

I mean it in that it cannot be found ie. if it is found you are guilty as its use is endemic in the anabolic steroid abusing community seeking to enhance performance or appearance through the use of drugs.

indiana · Tennis legend

So much that could be said. But whether worth wasting time on the delightful Maria ...

amp.theguardian.com/sport/2018/jun/26/maria-sharapova-wimbledon-warm-up-hurlingham

SuperT · Futures qualifying

indiana wrote:
So much that could be said. But whether worth wasting time on the delightful Maria ...

amp.theguardian.com/sport/2018/jun/26/maria-sharapova-wimbledon-warm-up-hurlingham

I want to know what sanctions the LTA has imposed on her for breaking the contract to play Birmingham. Clearly they don't want to upset her as they have carefully seeded Serena 25 to ensure Maria is not disadvantaged (she's 24). What price principle now?

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

And now it's Cesar Ramirez

www.itftennis.com/news/287922.aspx

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

For those interested in the role and power of CAS (the Court of Arbitration for Sport) and the threat it is now under following the Court of Appeal in Brussels' finding (which is far wider than as relate to the actual facts of the case)

en.as.com/en/2018/09/05/football/1536164687_519265.html

indiana · Tennis legend

Worrying.

In such a generally litigious world and with so much money in sport sporting organisations have done well to sign up their members to accepting CAS as the final arbitrator.

But if that is seen more widely as signing away teams' and individuals' human rights who knows where we could be heading.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Seriously???

As from Dan Roan:

Perhaps the most crucial decision WADA has ever faced.
iNADO - which represents 67 anti-doping organisations around the world - says it is dismayed at WADAs Russian compromise as it prepares to lift suspension of Russian anti-doping agency this week.

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