2022 September Player of the Month Nominations Thread

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

2022 September Player of the Month Nominations Thread

steven · Tennis legend

Looks as if Harriet Dart might have wrapped this up before September has even started, given her huge win today and the amount of love usually shown for her in these polls! Certainly setting a high bar early on for the other Brits to aim at.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

steven wrote:
Looks as if Harriet Dart might have wrapped this up before September has even started, given her huge win today and the amount of love usually shown for her in these polls! Certainly setting a high bar early on for the other Brits to aim at.

Are you going to nominate then, Steven?! Get the ball rolling ?!

steven · Tennis legend

Ok then, Harriet for getting her first win against a top 10 player in 7 attempts and also making R2 at the US Open for the first time. I'll update this if she beats Gálfi in R2!

emmsie69 · ATP level

steven wrote:
Ok then, Harriet for getting her first win against a top 10 player in 7 attempts and also making R2 at the US Open for the first time. I'll update this if she beats Gálfi in R2!

Damn, you beat me to it. I thought it might be a bit premature to nominate on the basis of a 1st round win but that was huge, no one including me gave her a chance.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Nominations

1. Harriet Dart - for getting her first win against a top 10 player in 7 attempts and also making R2 at the US Open for the first time.

indiana · Tennis legend

Much as I like Harriet, I sincerely hope that that R1 US Open win has not wrapped up this month's PoM.

emmsie69 · ATP level

indiana wrote:
Much as I like Harriet, I sincerely hope that that R1 US Open win has not wrapped up this month's PoM.

I've got a sneaking suspicion that it's going to go to Jack after a big run at the US but we will see come the end of the month.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

steven wrote:
Looks as if Harriet Dart might have wrapped this up before September has even started, given her huge win today and the amount of love usually shown for her in these polls! Certainly setting a high bar early on for the other Brits to aim at.

Not a chance that Harriet will win PoM based on that win, I'm afraid...

Firstly, people who do really well at the start of the month never (very rarely?) win - because (a) everyone's sort of forgotten it by the end of the month and (b) it will be marred by what comes next i.e. Harriet did brilliantly to win last night, amazing upset, but if Harriet plays really poorly next round, or loses mediocre matches for the rest of the month, that's what stays in the mind - if PoM is what she cares about ( biggrin ), better to peak in the last week ...

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
steven wrote:
Looks as if Harriet Dart might have wrapped this up before September has even started, given her huge win today and the amount of love usually shown for her in these polls! Certainly setting a high bar early on for the other Brits to aim at.
Not a chance that Harriet will win PoM based on that win, I'm afraid...
Firstly, people who do really well at the start of the month never (very rarely?) win - because (a) everyone's sort of forgotten it by the end of the month and (b) it will be marred by what comes next i.e. Harriet did brilliantly to win last night, amazing upset, but if Harriet plays really poorly next round, or loses mediocre matches for the rest of the month, that's what stays in the mind - if PoM is what she cares about (), better to peak in the last week ...

Actually, I might just test this - all the nominations this year have been in chronological order, so I can tell what it looks like!!

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
steven wrote:
Looks as if Harriet Dart might have wrapped this up before September has even started, given her huge win today and the amount of love usually shown for her in these polls! Certainly setting a high bar early on for the other Brits to aim at.
Not a chance that Harriet will win PoM based on that win, I'm afraid...
Firstly, people who do really well at the start of the month never (very rarely?) win - because (a) everyone's sort of forgotten it by the end of the month and (b) it will be marred by what comes next i.e. Harriet did brilliantly to win last night, amazing upset, but if Harriet plays really poorly next round, or loses mediocre matches for the rest of the month, that's what stays in the mind - if PoM is what she cares about (), better to peak in the last week ...
Actually, I might just test this - all the nominations this year have been in chronological order, so I can tell what it looks like!!

Yes, but that won't always tell you because someone who is nominated early on might then do something amazing at the end of the month (win an even better title, say) and so that scuppers the order

And often you have rather throwaway additions at the end (as I did, which is a function of having extra space and nothing to do with chronological order of performance)

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
steven wrote:
Looks as if Harriet Dart might have wrapped this up before September has even started, given her huge win today and the amount of love usually shown for her in these polls! Certainly setting a high bar early on for the other Brits to aim at.
Not a chance that Harriet will win PoM based on that win, I'm afraid...
Firstly, people who do really well at the start of the month never (very rarely?) win - because (a) everyone's sort of forgotten it by the end of the month and (b) it will be marred by what comes next i.e. Harriet did brilliantly to win last night, amazing upset, but if Harriet plays really poorly next round, or loses mediocre matches for the rest of the month, that's what stays in the mind - if PoM is what she cares about (), better to peak in the last week ...

So, here you go:

the 8 winners ytd have come from positions 15, 4, 5, 11, 3, 5, 4, 3

So in actual fact, 6 of the 8 winners have been in the first 5 to be nominated - this usually isnt in the first week, we typically would reach 5 by end of week 2, so in the first half of the month.

The number of top 4 finishes (plus ties) for each nomination position are:

1 = 3 in top 4

2 = 3

3 = 3

4 = 4

5 = 4

6 = 0

7 = 3

8 = 1

9 = 1

10 = 4

11 = 2

12 = 1

13 = 2

14 =1

15 = 1

16 = 1

17 = 0

18 =1

19= 1

20 = 0

So nomination positions 1 to 5 seem to get the most, with 10 doing well as well.

But on a fairly high level perspective, it in fact seems positions 4 and 5 get the most PoM wins and the most high finishes!

Number one certainly not a good place to go in but positions 4 and 5 seem spot on ie pretty early as we normally get around 12-16 nominations overall!

-- Edited by JonH comes home on Tuesday 30th of August 2022 02:27:17 PM

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
steven wrote:
Looks as if Harriet Dart might have wrapped this up before September has even started, given her huge win today and the amount of love usually shown for her in these polls! Certainly setting a high bar early on for the other Brits to aim at.
Not a chance that Harriet will win PoM based on that win, I'm afraid...
Firstly, people who do really well at the start of the month never (very rarely?) win - because (a) everyone's sort of forgotten it by the end of the month and (b) it will be marred by what comes next i.e. Harriet did brilliantly to win last night, amazing upset, but if Harriet plays really poorly next round, or loses mediocre matches for the rest of the month, that's what stays in the mind - if PoM is what she cares about (), better to peak in the last week ...
Actually, I might just test this - all the nominations this year have been in chronological order, so I can tell what it looks like!!
Yes, but that won't always tell you because someone who is nominated early on might then do something amazing at the end of the month (win an even better title, say) and so that scuppers the order
And often you have rather throwaway additions at the end (as I did, which is a function of having extra space and nothing to do with chronological order of performance)

true , true, but a bit of fun to analyse anyway and surely, CD, you of anyone like a little bit of challenge!!

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

and maybe that is the key - get an early nomination and then back it up with a great performance later in the month as well - ie do it more than once!?

foobarbaz · Strong Club Player

Interesting. Neglecting position #6, and the long tail, it's a bimodal distribution. Do we generalize over a fortnightly period, or is attention span? Only tennis can tell.