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RE: Week 14 - ITF (W15) Sharm El Sheikh, Egypt Hard


the addict wrote:

Well they've both got to get back somehow !


 

And fairly certain athletes are exempt if they can show negative tests (or they just take an odd route home).



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PaulM wrote:

the addict wrote:

Well they've both got to get back somehow !


 

And fairly certain athletes are exempt if they can show negative tests (or they just take an odd route home).




Elite sportspeople have to follow the same requirements as the rest of us. The only exemption they have is that if they haven't been to a red list country in the 10 days before arriving in the UK they can break self isolation to travel to training and competition venues. If they have been to a red list country in the 10 days before arriving in the UK they need to quarantine like us normal folk. As Jodie was in UAE last week she needs to wait until the middle of next week to return to the UK to avoid the quarantine requirement.

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But the government site says:

"The Regulations also exempt domestic elite sportspersons and essential sport ancillary staff (not including domestic broadcast staff and journalists) from the duty to self-isolate on their return to England from an elite sports event overseas. This exemption is conditional and only active whilst they are engaging in their elite sport activities. Domestic elite sportspersons and ancillary sportspersons are required to self-isolate apart from when competing in or training for an elite sports event; providing essential support to a domestic elite sportsperson in their competition or training; or providing essential operational support to the running of an elite sports event. This is in recognition that they will be operating under the governments Stages One to Four elite sport guidance (including appropriate testing and monitoring health protocols).

UK elite sportspersons based overseas returning to England for elite sport training or competition are also exempt from the requirement to self-isolate, in recognition that they will also be operating under the Stages One to Four guidance. This exemption is similarly conditional, and only active when they are engaged in elite sport. They are required to self-isolate apart from when competing in or training for an elite sports event."

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-guidance-on-phased-return-of-sport-and-recreation/elite-sport-return-to-cross-border-competition-guidance~:text=On%20arrival%20in%20England%2C%20international,bubble%2C%20until%20they%20leave%20England.

Although I'm not sure, as you say, if this also covers red list country presence with the past 10 days - other parts of the site implies it doesn.t

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RedSquirrel wrote:
PaulM wrote:

 

the addict wrote:

Well they've both got to get back somehow !


 

And fairly certain athletes are exempt if they can show negative tests (or they just take an odd route home).



 

Elite sportspeople have to follow the same requirements as the rest of us. The only exemption they have is that if they haven't been to a red list country in the 10 days before arriving in the UK they can break self isolation to travel to training and competition venues. If they have been to a red list country in the 10 days before arriving in the UK they need to quarantine like us normal folk. As Jodie was in UAE last week she needs to wait until the middle of next week to return to the UK to avoid the quarantine requirement.


 

Yes, sorry. You're right it's more complex than I suggested, but not having to do the 10 days full quarantine on coming back from competing abroad and the ability to do 'weird routes' for competition/training on the way back to help get round the red list issue and get that additional freedom is pretty huge. In Scotland elite athletes returning here do not need to do any form of isolation as long as they haven't come from an 'acute risk' country.

 

Sports bodies/events are also able to negotiate exemptions to enable athletes to, say, participate in events back to back, but that's obviously less in scope for a tennis player ranked 250+ returning from a 15k! However it does enable players to travel back to the UK and then back out again much more easily than for us regular people.

 

 Football (for teams returning from European/International competition)/F1 being two examples. Players coming to the UK after the French or European grass to play UK grass or Wimbledon will not be required to do the quarantine like normal folk (even if France ends up on the red list), and will instead be subject to rules put in place and agreed for the events to take place safely.

 

I'm fairly certain though that if it was absolutely needed the LTA and ITF would have been able to agree waivers for UK and Mexican BJK squad members.

 



-- Edited by PaulM on Friday 9th of April 2021 07:16:09 PM

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Tough task for Beth tomorrow against the promising Aussie. Some bookies (well, one) are offering up to 5/1 (6.00) for her to get the win. It seems that W15s are just offering the usual amount of points, and no changes, so it's a bit stingy that if she can pull it off, and get a great, relative, win, that she would only gain an additional 2 points for her efforts, but then I suppose she did get a good bit of fortune this morning anyway, and many would have thought she would have been out by now anyway.





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JonH comes home wrote:

is it not more likely she wants to get home having been selected, job done in Egypt, no more to be gained - focus on BJK?


 Not totally sure I follow the logic here. if she's injured/unwell/tested positive for covd, fine but if she's just basically gone to a tournament with no intention of playing more than a couple of matches I have to say I'd find that pretty unpalatable. Especially at this level in the game where women are struggling to find competitions to enter it would be disprespectful to say the least.

Maybe I'm misreading you?

She could have won this tournament which would have been good for confidence as well as playing more matches.



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HarryGem wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:

is it not more likely she wants to get home having been selected, job done in Egypt, no more to be gained - focus on BJK?


 Not totally sure I follow the logic here. if she's injured/unwell/tested positive for covd, fine but if she's just basically gone to a tournament with no intention of playing more than a couple of matches I have to say I'd find that pretty unpalatable. Especially at this level in the game where women are struggling to find competitions to enter it would be disprespectful to say the least.

Maybe I'm misreading you?

She could have won this tournament which would have been good for confidence as well as playing more matches.


 No, you definitely read my comments as I intended. Not sure Im correct though !



-- Edited by JonH comes home on Friday 9th of April 2021 09:04:15 PM

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Katie has a bit of a habit of doing this in lower level competitions. Its possible if shes feeling slightly under the weather she doesnt feel the need to bust a gut if she thinks she can get the points more easily elsewhere...

Id stay and see through the week in her position but she must have her reasons.

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Beth has lost the first set 0-6

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Must have pressed the reset button - two love holds at the start of the second set *2-2

Curiously enough, the top seed also lost her first set 6-0, but is 3-0 up in the second

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A lot better effort in the 2nd set (mind, she only won 7 points in the 1st, so it kind of had to be). She was 4-1* up on one stage, then then had to save a couple of MPs at 4-5*, before going down in the TB, so 0-6 6-7(3).

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Barefoot wrote:

Katie has a bit of a habit of doing this in lower level competitions. Its possible if shes feeling slightly under the weather she doesnt feel the need to bust a gut if she thinks she can get the points more easily elsewhere...

Id stay and see through the week in her position but she must have her reasons.


 I think most gb players don't really like playing other gb players. There is a potential down side for a previous top 100 player, who obviously wants to get back to top 100 (and who most tennis people think is capable of it) of playing a lower ranked gb player. Even if she had won but fairly close, maybe lost a set or even a 4 and 4 sort of score, there would be an inkling of doubt about her real level because people know her opponents ability and level. Not the same with an overseas opponent who people dont know in the same way. I'm not saying this would be likely to be main consideration but if she had a slight niggle or whatever it could have helped make the decision for her.



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She lost 0-6 6-7(3)

She woke up in the second set but it was too late to salvage the match however she did get a few points in this tournament.

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That was a pretty good second set, many of the games went to deuce. It ended up 47 points to 49.

Gadecki is the player that beat (admitedly an unwell) Sofia Kenin in the Melbourne 4 International tournament in February, so obviously quite a talented 18 year old

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Yeah, she's not done a lot wrong as a pro. Beat Naiktha 3 times out of 3 in the Aussie equivalent of the UK Pro League last summer, then in addition to that Kenin win, took Pera to 3, and was competitive against both Qiang and Peterson in other home WTA events, also won a match against a direct acceptance as a QWC in the AO quals, only dropped 2 games vs Matilda the other week, and avenged her shock (odds-wise) recent defeat to Glushko a couple of days ago. So taking all that into account, baring in mind she's only got 7 ranking events on her record (inc these 3 at Sharm), she generally is playing at a far higher level than her 600 odd, and probably why Beth was way out at 5/1 to beat her at some places.

I saw bits of her during the Aussie swing, and have seen comparisons to Lisicki, which will go down well with me, so she's definitely a player on my radar. We obviously couldn't have watched the match, but I was interested to see how Katie would have got on, had they met.

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