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Good luck to Scotland tonight! Will also be giving Wales support in their quest for a higher seeding in the play offs. They or Denmark, plus 4 other European teams plus 3 Caribbean/Central American teams will join the 34 already into the World Cup at the end of tonights action

Northern and Republic of Ireland already in them - draw on Thursday alongside the Interncontinental Play off draw as well.

In the Concacaf zone, we have Suriname or Panama, Jamaica or Curacao, and one of Honduras, Haiti or Costa Rica also going to qualify, in 3 very finely placed groups and head to head matches for top spot in all 3. 3 qualify and 2 go to the Intercontinental Play offs, joining Bolivia, DR Congo, New Caledonia, and the winner of Iraq and the UAE (who play their play off second leg tonight), to form what will be one of the most eclectic groups of nations battling it out in Mexico to try and qualify.

The Intercontinental and Euro qualifying play offs for those final 6 places (4 Europe, 2 interncontinental) take place in March.



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Iraq make the qualies to join Bolivia, DR Congo, and New Caledonia. Two concacaf teams will join the 6 team party overnight (kick offs 1 am).

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Amazing! Well done Scotland! Enjoyed that match. Scenes!

Congrats Indy, Scottie and other Scottish board
Members I may have forgotten!

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Simple win by 2 clear goals. Dinnae know what the fuss is about 

YESSSSSSSS !!!!

And some scoreline by Wales.

All the best to Wales, N Ireland, and the Republic of Ireland in the play-offs. Sorry to be missing them - NOT!



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indiana wrote:

Simple win by 2 clear goals. Dinnae know what the fuss is about 

YESSSSSSSS !!!!

And some scoreline by Wales.

All the best to Wales, N Ireland, and the Republic of Ireland in the play-offs. Sorry to be missing them - NOT!


 Wales should get a home tie in round one of the play offs - and possibly draw the Republic. Northern Ireland - Italy looks a slam dunk draw for them!

Good luck to them all, if one can make it through, that would be great. 

McTominays goal was a worldy, as they say. And then Tierney's wasn't bad! and McLean - I just laughed!



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Play-off SFs: Pot 1 team home to Pot 4. Pot 2 home to Pot 3.

Pot 1: Italy, Denmark, Turkey, Ukraine
Pot 2: Poland, Wales, Czech Rep, Slovakia
Pot 3: Rep of Ireland, Albania, Bosnia & H, Kosova
Pot 4: Sweden, Romania, N Macedonia, N ireland

4 paths to the qualify. Each path has a Pot 1 vs Pot 4 SF and a Pot 2 vs Pot 3 SF, with the winners meeting in the play-off finals with the home teams as per a draw.

 



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indiana wrote:

Play-off SFs: Pot 1 team home to Pot 4. Pot 2 home to Pot 3.

Pot 1: Italy, Denmark, Turkey, Ukraine
Pot 2: Poland, Wales, Czech Rep, Slovakia
Pot 3: Rep of Ireland, Albania, Bosnia & H, Kosova
Pot 4: Sweden, Romania, N Macedonia, N ireland

4 paths to the qualify. Each path has a Pot 1 vs Pot 4 SF and a Pot 2 vs Pot 3 SF, with the winners meeting in the play-off finals with the home teams as per a draw.

 

I am not sure the idea of giving the highest ranked teams a highe the pot and then giving them a home draw for the semis is very fair. They arent the teams that did best in qualies. The pots should, in my mind, been linked to group stage points/average points or at least the home draws determined by that. 
Being in Pot 1 and 2 seems a massive advantage - can't see NI or RI getting through but Wales I do see as getting to the Path final 


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JonH comes home wrote:
indiana wrote:

Play-off SFs: Pot 1 team home to Pot 4. Pot 2 home to Pot 3.

Pot 1: Italy, Denmark, Turkey, Ukraine
Pot 2: Poland, Wales, Czech Rep, Slovakia
Pot 3: Rep of Ireland, Albania, Bosnia & H, Kosova
Pot 4: Sweden, Romania, N Macedonia, N ireland

4 paths to the qualify. Each path has a Pot 1 vs Pot 4 SF and a Pot 2 vs Pot 3 SF, with the winners meeting in the play-off finals with the home teams as per a draw.

 

I am not sure the idea of giving the highest ranked teams a highe the pot and then giving them a home draw for the semis is very fair. They arent the teams that did best in qualies. The pots should, in my mind, been linked to group stage points/average points or at least the home draws determined by that. 
Being in Pot 1 and 2 seems a massive advantage - can't see NI or RI getting through but Wales I do see as getting to the Path final 

 You could look at it another way. The 1 and 2 teams are obviously in the doldrums while the 3 and 4 teams are on the rise, which would potentially make the latter the favourites, obviously excluding Sweden whose inclusion is a joke.



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Brendan F wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
indiana wrote:

Play-off SFs: Pot 1 team home to Pot 4. Pot 2 home to Pot 3.

Pot 1: Italy, Denmark, Turkey, Ukraine
Pot 2: Poland, Wales, Czech Rep, Slovakia
Pot 3: Rep of Ireland, Albania, Bosnia & H, Kosova
Pot 4: Sweden, Romania, N Macedonia, N ireland

4 paths to the qualify. Each path has a Pot 1 vs Pot 4 SF and a Pot 2 vs Pot 3 SF, with the winners meeting in the play-off finals with the home teams as per a draw.

 

I am not sure the idea of giving the highest ranked teams a highe the pot and then giving them a home draw for the semis is very fair. They arent the teams that did best in qualies. The pots should, in my mind, been linked to group stage points/average points or at least the home draws determined by that. 
Being in Pot 1 and 2 seems a massive advantage - can't see NI or RI getting through but Wales I do see as getting to the Path final 

 You could look at it another way. The 1 and 2 teams are obviously in the doldrums while the 3 and 4 teams are on the rise, which would potentially make the latter the favourites, obviously excluding Sweden whose inclusion is a joke.


 Yes, the Pot 4 teams have rather less to complain about. They have had the worst qualifying campaigns in not being top 2 finishers and Sweden have been abject. But they are there by the Nations League backdoor



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indiana wrote:
Brendan F wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
indiana wrote:

Play-off SFs: Pot 1 team home to Pot 4. Pot 2 home to Pot 3.

Pot 1: Italy, Denmark, Turkey, Ukraine
Pot 2: Poland, Wales, Czech Rep, Slovakia
Pot 3: Rep of Ireland, Albania, Bosnia & H, Kosova
Pot 4: Sweden, Romania, N Macedonia, N ireland

4 paths to the qualify. Each path has a Pot 1 vs Pot 4 SF and a Pot 2 vs Pot 3 SF, with the winners meeting in the play-off finals with the home teams as per a draw.

 

I am not sure the idea of giving the highest ranked teams a highe the pot and then giving them a home draw for the semis is very fair. They arent the teams that did best in qualies. The pots should, in my mind, been linked to group stage points/average points or at least the home draws determined by that. 
Being in Pot 1 and 2 seems a massive advantage - can't see NI or RI getting through but Wales I do see as getting to the Path final 

 You could look at it another way. The 1 and 2 teams are obviously in the doldrums while the 3 and 4 teams are on the rise, which would potentially make the latter the favourites, obviously excluding Sweden whose inclusion is a joke.


 Yes, the Pot 4 teams have rather less to complain about. They have had the worst qualifying campaigns in not being top 2 finishers and Sweden have been abject. But they are there by the Nations League backdoor


 Agreed and, being honest, I don't think there should be a Nations League back door - the World Cup should be based on performance in the actual World Cup qualies. 

Personally, given they have 6 teams in the Inter Confederation qualifying play offs in 2 paths of 3, I dont see why Europe didn't have 4 paths of 3 with 12 teams involved. Northern Ireland would miss out on that basis but, heh. 

Anyway, it is what it is - draw coming up! 



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New Caledonia v Jamaica; winner plays DR Congo

Suriname v Bolivia; winner plays Iraq

All to be played in Mexico in March

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In the European play offs:

A

Italy v NORHERN IRELAND

WALES v Bosnia-Herzegovina

B

Ukraine v Sweden

Poland v Albania

C

Turkey v Romania

Slovakia v Kosovo

D

Denmark v North Macedonia

Czechia v REPUBLIC OF IRELAND


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Hmm, Path A is certainly where to fix the eyes.

At least potential good news at the end for Waies and the Republic. The Path A final hosts will be Wales or Bosnia and the Path D final hosts will be Czechia or the Republic of Ireland. Wales vs Italy for a place in the finals would be something

The Path B final hosts will be Ukraine or Sweden and the Path C final hosts will be Slovakia or Kosovo.



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Hmm, Path A is certainly where to fix the eyes.

At least potential good news at the end for Waies and the Republic. The Path A final hosts will be Wales or Bosnia and the Path D final hosts will be Czechia or the Republic of Ireland. Wales vs Italy for a place in the finals would be something

The Path B final hosts will be Ukraine or Sweden and the Path C final hosts will be Slovakia or Kosovo.


 Are Ukraine able to host, or are they moving to neutral venues?

Good news re Wales getting the hosting rights, and RI.  



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JonH comes home wrote:
indiana wrote:

Hmm, Path A is certainly where to fix the eyes.

At least potential good news at the end for Waies and the Republic. The Path A final hosts will be Wales or Bosnia and the Path D final hosts will be Czechia or the Republic of Ireland. Wales vs Italy for a place in the finals would be something

The Path B final hosts will be Ukraine or Sweden and the Path C final hosts will be Slovakia or Kosovo.


 Are Ukraine able to host, or are they moving to neutral venues?

Good news re Wales getting the hosting rights, and RI.  


I doubt Ukraine can actually host in Ukraine. They've generally ( perhaps always in the campaign ) been playing their 'home' games in Poland.

I guess they might have a rethink if they have a play-off final vs Poland.



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