seagull wrote:

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Have to say as a supporter VAR is really tarnishing the experience of attending matches. Was at Wolves on Saturday and referee did not see handball from Dunk (Probably because it didn't touch him). No one really appealed and if game carried on no one would have thought twice. We were in line with it and saw nothing. You then get 2 minutes waiting in bewilderment as to what is going on as they watch the incident over and over again to see if there was any conclusive evidence as to if it hit his arm (there wasn't). Then another minute while ref goes over to monitor (and by then you know he is going to give it so a complete waste of time).
Not only that but every time you score you half celebrate in fear that VAR will find a way to overturn it.

It's really noticeable how when I go to watch Worthing what a better experience overall it is without VAR.

Listen we won the game anyway so not really the fact we were on the wrong end of the decision but who is benefitting from VAR? Certainly not the supporters who by the way had already had to travel 200 miles each way with a train strike on.

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 I agree with this, Seagull - same for watching Harrogate play, surely it is all part of football's great appeal that it flows and mistakes happen - VAR slows it all down and confuses. Apart from "did it cross the goal-line" stuff I think we should leave the rest to the Referee on the pitch.

I have generally always been a supporter of VAR and many of the issues have been human related ( indecision etc ) rather than technology. And undoubtably more decisions are now ultimately right than before, in particular the clearly on review wrong ones ( even if a few to my mind startling decisions are still given after review ) so, to wolf, that is a relevant point.

However, I have never been in a stadium when VAR has been i operation ( may sometime fairly soon if I catch a St Mirren match, wirh the recent Scottish Premiership introduction of VAR ) but I can I think understand and sympathise with the changed live spectator experience. The fans in the stadium matter so much more than those sitting at home on their couches

So overall, I am not really sure. I guess it's here in some form to stay so decisons have to become quicker and the communication to fans better.

wolf wrote:

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Can someone tell me on what universe is this not a penalty?

https://mobile.twitter.com/mortimer_ben/status/1591534104616787968

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One of many really poor decisions yesterday.

The Spurs first goal against Leeds was a clear foul on the keeper and how Seagull isn't here protesting about the obvious penalty Brighton should have had against Villa, I'll never know.

seagull wrote:

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Just par for the course now Bob. Sick of it. Now watch the World Cup implement it perfectly.

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Agreed.

indiana wrote:

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Ha, Scottish referees know how to give penalties. Catch the Ross County one vs Celtic from Saturday if you can. Since the Celtic defender couldn't instantly make his arm disappear the ref gave a penalty and the VAR chap bizarrely confirmed it.

Scottish refs are on another level though 

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 I'm not sure it's going to make a huge difference in Celtic's SPL season