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JonH comes home wrote:

Harrogate went down abjectly to Accrington Stanley yesterday - less said the better.

We are now bottom, behind Newport at last as we are in freefall.

I like Simon Weaver but any other club would have fired him by now - he has run out of ideas, many months ago. Having Daddy as club owner can be good for stability at times but when it is like this, hard decisions need to be made and don't get made.

I don't see us staying up - I might be wrong, but I can't see where a point let alone a win will come from now.

Problem is, if we go down, I also don't see us coming up - again. We are a small club and fans will depart in droves. The Weaver's may well leave as well and I would see us playing a couple of levels lower in due course in front of 1000 crowds as opposed to 3000 or so we get at the moment in the league.

Sad times


 Free fall - 2-0 home loss to tranmere yesterday. 



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Great fun in Scotland.!!!

Celtic lose the Old Firm derby 1-3 at home to Rangers. That is their 6th loss in 8 matches under their car crash new manager Wilfried Nancy, recruited from the USA MLS by Head of Football Opetstions, Paul Tisdale, who previously spent a career managing in the lower English Leagues.

5 of these defeats have been domestic, including losing the League Cup Final 1-3 to St Mirren biggrin   In 7 of the 8 matches they have conceded 2 goals or more, aided by the switch to 3 at the back which at times becomes 1 at the back with the outside centre backs actively encouraged to go well into the opposition half ( and then at times they are missing tackles while still in.that opposition half ).

Apoarently not exactly great half time motivation with no shows in the 2nd half vs St.Mirren, Dundee United and Motherwell ( well in truth no show at all vs Mothetwell ) prompted me to have a very nice wee wager on Rangers at 11/1 when Celtic were 1-0 up at HT 

The next Nancy press conference should be fun if he gets to hold one ( the last once was a rant in which he took no blame at all and continued to talk about a process of improvement, as if he had taken over a relegation threatened team rather than a not great team but getting along after Martin O'Neill's interim stewardship ).

He truly has mabaged to underperform Russell Martin's short lived management of Rangers.( which should end up longer than Nancy's )

Before Hearts' home match vs bottom club Livingston :

1. Hearts - 19 played, 41 points, GD 21 - steadily doing their thing though lost derby last week vs Hibs.
2. Celtic - 20 played, 38 points, GD 13 - **** lately
3. Rangers - 20 played, 38 points, GD 13 - **** early on

4. Motherwell- 20 played, 33 points, GD 12 - best football team to watch on relatively very little resources 



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What chances they cut their losses and get ONeill back for rest of the season??

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JonH comes home wrote:

What chances they cut their losses and get ONeill back for rest of the season??


 It's certainly being widely speculated about with most Celtic fans and non fans considering Nancy's position should be untenable. But the question being asked is how much will the Celtic chiefs protect each other, given Tisdale and the CEO Micheal Nicholson's judgement not for the first time comes into serious question. Ultimately Dermot Desmond, the largest shareholder, is the organ grinder.

There is some sympathy for Nancy in that he just accepted a job that he was offered, though some of his words and actions have been baffling. He's widely considered simply to be in the wrong movie.



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indiana wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:

What chances they cut their losses and get ONeill back for rest of the season??


 It's certainly being widely speculated about with most Celtic fans and non fans considering Nancy's position should be untenable. But the question being asked is how much will the Celtic chiefs protect each other, given Tisdale and the CEO Micheal Nicholson's judgement not for the first time comes into serious question. Ultimately Dermot Desmond, the largest shareholder, is the organ grinder.

There is some sympathy for Nancy in that he just accepted a job that he was offered, though some of his words and actions have been baffling. He's widely considered simply to be in the wrong movie.


 Sacked.



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Seems to be a thing this past week!

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indiana wrote:
indiana wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:

What chances they cut their losses and get ONeill back for rest of the season??


 It's certainly being widely speculated about with most Celtic fans and non fans considering Nancy's position should be untenable. But the question being asked is how much will the Celtic chiefs protect each other, given Tisdale and the CEO Micheal Nicholson's judgement not for the first time comes into serious question. Ultimately Dermot Desmond, the largest shareholder, is the organ grinder.

There is some sympathy for Nancy in that he just accepted a job that he was offered, though some of his words and actions have been baffling. He's widely considered simply to be in the wrong movie.


 Sacked.


 I hear that Ruben Amorim is available biggrin



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JonH comes home wrote:

Seems to be a thing this past week!


Indeed in Englsnd and Scotland.

Aberdeen sacked their boss. He was already in trouble before he flung his players under a bus in his post mstch interviews on Saturday. Seems to be the in-thing to talk yourself out of a job.

Worryingly Stephen Robinson, the St Mirren boss, is being widely talked about for the Aberdeen job. And in quite a bit of waffle from Robinson about the speculation he omits to say that he is committed to St Mirren. cry

Some chap Alex Ferguson once went from.St Mirren manager to Aberdeen. I'm sure he is still kept up at night thinking what he might hsve achieved if he had stayed in Paisley!



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JonH comes home wrote:

What chances they cut their losses and get ONeill back for rest of the season??


That's exactly what's happened.  



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Stircrazy wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:

What chances they cut their losses and get ONeill back for rest of the season??


That's exactly what's happened.  


 Indeed. As Indy says, in Scotland and England there have been some amazingly inept managerial hires in recent times, this one maybe takes the biscuit. 

I really like Gareth Southgate and part of me would love to see him go again at United. But it wont be him. A club like Celtic would suit him well though, but not sure hed move up to Glasgow. 



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I think we are doomed. We havent won since September and havent scored at home in a long time. We have 18 points from 27 matches. It seems around 45 is normal to stay up. We would need 27 points from 19 matches; 1.5 points a game, which is play off form.

Wont happen. Weaver needs to realise he cant save us - thanks for all the good times Simon, its time to go.


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The National League is very competitive and you will find lots of local teams trying to bring in the best regional players.
Oldham, Carlise and York have big budgets and Rochdale are flying.

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paulisi wrote:

The National League is very competitive and you will find lots of local teams trying to bring in the best regional players.
Oldham, Carlise and York have big budgets and Rochdale are flying.


 I fear when we go down, we wont come back anytime soon. Sad. 



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To be fair Harrogate have probably over achieved getting into the football league.
Just a few years ago you were struggling in non league before the money arrived.
Money cannot always buy success in FL as Salford have found out.

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To be fair Harrogate have probably over achieved getting into the football league.
Just a few years ago you were struggling in non league before the money arrived.
Money cannot always buy success in FL as Salford have found out.


 You are right, of course, and with an average crowd of somewhere between 2500-3000 it is hard to make it self sustaining - the worry is, if we go down, will Daddy Weaver take his money out of the club, will the club then survive (he wont want his money back, but he may take his funding away - I cant imagine anyone wanting to buy the club). If he money goes, getting up again will be tough, if not impossible  



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