Brexit

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Brexit

paulisi · Tennis legend

Bob in Spain wrote:
And here is another 200 year old business killed off by Brexit

twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1645794141480308739

I think you will find that this is a business killed off by poor management and the inability to react to changes in the market.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

paulisi wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
And here is another 200 year old business killed off by Brexit

twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1645794141480308739
I think you will find that this is a business killed off by poor management and the inability to react to changes in the market.

Just conincidental then? smile

Never mind, at least we have the big flagship CPTTP deal coming in, with its mega 0.08% increase, all ready to come in and lift us off bottom place of the G7 top countries for economic growth/GDP

Oh sorry, it's not even 0.08% now - needs a microscope to even find it now....

SuperT · Futures qualifying

paulisi wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
And here is another 200 year old business killed off by Brexit

twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1645794141480308739
I think you will find that this is a business killed off by poor management and the inability to react to changes in the market.

disbelief

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

These people are utterly taking the Michael. At a Business Connect conference, the PM was talking about a new campaign to promote UK companies in Silicon Valley.

The campaign is called 'Unicorn Kingdom'

https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1650454016659267585

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

In a new book out written by Anthony Seldon and Raymond Newell, they claim the following with regard to Johnson's reaction to the victory in the 2016 referendum.

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After disappearing to bed for just 20 minutes, he re-emerged in a Brazil football shirt and shorts looking distraught. He repeatedly said: "What the hell is happening?" He appeared devastated when David Cameron and his wife Samantha emerged from Downing Street, bringing an end to Mr Cameron's time as PM.

"Oh my God. Look at Sam. God. Poor Sam," Mr Johnson said. Then shortly after, he said: "Oh s***, we've got no plan. We haven't thought about it. I didn't think it would happen. Holy crap, what will we do?"

The book says that his friends never saw him more frightened than at this point.

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www.lbc.co.uk/news/boris-johnson-reaction-brexit-vote/

All adds weight to the argument (one I believe) that Johnson was actually a remainer, who never thought he would win the referendum, but campaigned for Leave thinking it would win him brownie points in the Tory party. He never thought about the consequences for the country, only his own ambition.

That man has destroyed a country to further his own ambition. And as you can probably tell, 7 years on and I am still angry.

-- Edited by Bob in Spain on Tuesday 25th of April 2023 12:12:51 PM

christ · Futures qualifying

Bob in Spain wrote:
That man has destroyed a country to further his own ambition.

Nope. The people that voted for Brexit did that. He was just an accomplice.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

christ wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
That man has destroyed a country to further his own ambition.
Nope. The people that voted for Brexit did that. He was just an accomplice.

Many of them voted that way because he lied to them. Enough to swing the result. Others have to share the blame, I agree, but he is the main culprit. I have no problem with those that campaigned for Brexit (or voted for it) because they believed in it, but he new it was a bad idea and campaigned for it anyway, just to further his own personal ambition.

-- Edited by Bob in Spain on Tuesday 25th of April 2023 12:41:27 PM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

To add to your comment, Bob, I admit this is a tad hearsay but via a friend of a friend, I heard that she was a in a meeting where Boris had asked X to explain how trade could now work with the EU, given the Tories couldn't possibly agree to a customs union or free movement of goods or EEA, and everything was going back and forth, with different possibles, and someone explained it and Boris jumped up, all red, and said 'FFS, stop giving me the doom and gloom version, give me the best version' - and there was a pause - before X said, 'But Boris, that IS the best version'. And Boris went a bit pale and said 'oh, ****, you're kidding me.....'

Yes, I don't think he knew or understood or cared.

christ · Futures qualifying

Edit: Sorry tennis people. Idiocy deleted.

-- Edited by christ on Saturday 29th of April 2023 08:06:06 PM

Shhh · Challenger level

christ wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
christ wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
That man has destroyed a country to further his own ambition.
Nope. The people that voted for Brexit did that. He was just an accomplice.
Many of them voted that way because he lied to them. Enough to swing the result. Others have to share the blame, I agree, but he is the main culprit. I have no problem with those that campaigned for Brexit (or voted for it) because they believed in it, but he new it was a bad idea and campaigned for it anyway, just to further his own personal ambition.
Many, but not by any means all, but even then that is no excuse. (Just about) all politicians are only out for themselves, and they all lie: BoJo is no different, but he has unfortunately proved charismatic enough to sway the non-thinking classes. This is not his fault. If the voting population actually had a majority of people that actually thought before voting, he wouldn't have made a difference. Nothing he said (well, nothing that I can remember) was demonstrably or provably or even possibly true, but it was frequently what the great unwashed wanted to believe - even when they knew it to be false. This, I repeat, is not his fault, it is ours.
What is slightly chilling is that he remains charismatic, and a large proportion of the population would vote for him again - in that we are in trouble that is similar to that faced by our cousins on the left of the pond.

"The Great Unwashed"................Really?

christ · Futures qualifying

Edit: Sorry tennis people. Idiocy deleted.

-- Edited by christ on Saturday 29th of April 2023 08:06:19 PM

Shhh · Challenger level

christ wrote:
Shhh wrote:
christ wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
christ wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
That man has destroyed a country to further his own ambition.
Nope. The people that voted for Brexit did that. He was just an accomplice.
Many of them voted that way because he lied to them. Enough to swing the result. Others have to share the blame, I agree, but he is the main culprit. I have no problem with those that campaigned for Brexit (or voted for it) because they believed in it, but he new it was a bad idea and campaigned for it anyway, just to further his own personal ambition.
Many, but not by any means all, but even then that is no excuse. (Just about) all politicians are only out for themselves, and they all lie: BoJo is no different, but he has unfortunately proved charismatic enough to sway the non-thinking classes. This is not his fault. If the voting population actually had a majority of people that actually thought before voting, he wouldn't have made a difference. Nothing he said (well, nothing that I can remember) was demonstrably or provably or even possibly true, but it was frequently what the great unwashed wanted to believe - even when they knew it to be false. This, I repeat, is not his fault, it is ours.
What is slightly chilling is that he remains charismatic, and a large proportion of the population would vote for him again - in that we are in trouble that is similar to that faced by our cousins on the left of the pond.
"The Great Unwashed"................Really?
Not my phrase, unfortunately.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/great_unwashed

It does make it any less digusting to use it christ

christ · Futures qualifying

Edit: Sorry tennis people. Idiocy deleted.

-- Edited by christ on Saturday 29th of April 2023 08:06:34 PM

Steve J · Lower Club Player

christ wrote:
the great unwashed

You appear to have a pretty bad case of Brexit Derangement Syndrome. I would suggest reading Goodwin's Values, Voices and Virtue, but I don't think that you could handle it.