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Post Info TOPIC: Weeks 27 & 28 - The Championships, Wimbledon - men's singles (grass)


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RE: Weeks 27 & 28 - The Championships, Wimbledon - men's singles (grass)


flamingowings wrote:

Men's final: Wimbledon peaked with 4.06m (30.8%) at 15:45.

Saturday:

13:15: Wimbledon 2018 - 3.03m (27.8%)
* peak - 4.64m (37.2%) at 17:20
* Djokovic v Nadal (13:15-15:40) - 3.43m (35.6%)
* Kerber v Williams (15:40-17:45) - 3.05m (23.9%)


 It's quite sad, but not surprising that that Nole and Rafa's semi got more viewers than the ladies final. The men's game was far superior in quality though. Admittedly that was a little matter of a clashing football match.



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indiana wrote:

Let it be recorded that Novak Djokovic won the Wimbledon title in straight sets.

Think I may not have been the only one that say watched the boys final and the World Cup Final and the men's final basically just passed me by.


you didn't miss anything, Mens doubles final and the Nadal Djokovic semi were the most entertaining for me.



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Michael D wrote:
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Stircrazy wrote:

The first three paragraphs of Matthew Syed's column in today's Times under the heading, "Anderson-Isner marathon highlights need for tie-break in final set":

The guts and determination of two remarkable sportsmen yesterday were betrayed by a scoring system that has surely outlived its usefulness. John Isner and Kevin Anderson battled on Centre Court for point after point, game after game, breaking records, breaking schedules, but ultimately, exhausting the patience, if not of the Centre Court crowd, then of many watching on TV.

I love the five-set format. I love the epic nature of these long-form tussles. But tension is not an inexhaustible resource. Even Alfred Hitchc0ck would have struggled to hold the attention of his audience if Psycho had gone on and on, a six-hour marathon that didnt show any sign of finishing even after the sun went down, the shadows lengthened, and Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic, waiting in the wings, had a bit of kip.

Wimbledon must surely introduce a tie-break in the final set, if not at 6-6, then at 10-10, or 12-12, or, hell, even 20-20. There has to be some sense of finality, some definite end point, when you have two big servers going head to head.

And towards the end:

Twitter was awash with gallows humour. Jack Whitehall, the comedian, weighed in with: "This umpire in the Isner Anderson game had black hair when it started." Another said: "The year is 2050. John Isner is through to his first grand-slam final after beating Kevin Anderson 13,960-13,958 in the final set."

My personal favourite was: "I just realized - Isner and Anderson know they can't beat Djoker and Nadal in the final, so they're doing a filibuster." 

Followed by a plea:

And yet: can we please change this system? The US Open has a tie-break in the deciding set, but has lost none of its capacity for drama and, indeed, for epic contests. Indeed, you might argue that the drama is heightened in the fifth set by the looming awareness of an immovable denouement. It gives the protagonists, the spectators, the schedulers, and everyone else, not least the players on next, a focal point, a cliff edge, a precipice.


Indeed, Matthew !

And we don't change because of this year, we change because we should already gave done so and this could always happen.

An over six and a half hours match which no one knew the end point, they could have still been going today. A second semi final of an 'outdoor' Slam played under the roof in great weather and incomplete, to be finished the next day, impacting on a schedule of finals.

And so easily avoided. I would have a 6-6 TB as in other sets. I am probably in a minority in that and I can go with say 12-12, just geez let us have finality rather than endlessly waiting for that break, very possibly ultimately tiredness induced as opposed to general tennis skill induced.

Such a change from Wimbledon is not going to suddenly increase the number of serve bots around even if one accepts the arguable contention that it would unfairly favour them. The courts, balls etc here and general tour have greatly reduced them and that's not going to be reversed just because Wimbledon has final set TBs. But if we do have another two contesting such a match let's just never again have this nonsense.

Liking the noises coming from such as Tim Henman. Now act, Wimbledon, for future years. Of course, leave as is and it might not happen again, at least in a generation. But once was too much and could have been avoided. Twice would be awful. 

Do it !


It happened TWICE yesterday!!!! As someone else noted a 16 yr old shouldn't be having to play a 4 hrs plus tennis match. I'd be ok with 12-12 too in the deciding set, but there has to be a limit. It's beyond the time for having one. There was also the 22-20 doubles match that Jay and Cam were in and last year there were a succession of men's doubles matches that went on endlessly in 5th sets for 4 hrs plus and more, and they were all far too much. It's beyond the time to change. I hope the players put pressure on AELTC to do so, since I still doubt they will make the wise decision without more pressure on them.  

Edit: All right, just checked, and there were no extreme doubles results last year, though plenty of extended 5th sets. Kubot and Melo beat Marach and Pavic 13-11 in the 5th in the final, after winning their SF 9-7 in the 5th. Marach and Pavic won their SF 17-15 in the 5th. Kubot and Melo also won their 2nd round match 11-9 and their was another 12-10. These were the longest matches. However, the large number of them validates the same point though, it would be good to know where the limit is.


And the AELTC finally bows to the inevitable



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I feel the AELTC have bottled this a little. At 12-12 it means six sets have been played - far too long! At least the common sense has somewhat prevailed and the farce, albeit many years late, has ended.
I suppose this decision serves as a happy medium between those that want the tie break at 6-6 like the other slams and those that don't want a 5th set tie break at all.

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Indy has put up a poll on the dedicated thread.

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