Property developers and the death of non league football clubs

indiana · Tennis legend

Property developers and the death of non league football clubs

seagull · Hall of fame

Good luck to Worthing tomorrow at Oxford City. National League South play off semi final

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Well done Spartans! Would you reckon theyve a decent chance against Albion Rovers (where is Albion!!?)
Albion Rovers play in Coatbridge, population about 45,000 though really in a conurbation of about 90,000 when joined with Airdrie and some other adjoining settlements. About 9 miles east of Glasgow city centre not that far from the outskirts. Airdrie and Coatbridge have historically had a slight Protestant / Catholic thing going on!
According to wiki they have been in the Scotfish League ever since 1903 apart from 4 years during Workd War One when the second tier was suspended.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki

And apparently have spawned various namesake clubs around the world!

indiana · Tennis legend

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albion_Rovers_F.C.

paulisi · Tennis legend

A few interesting playoff results

Warrington finally promoted as are Rushall Olympic

Notts County into playoff final - deserve to go up

Oxford v St Albans
Kiddy v Brackley

In S & N final

Bishop Stortford or Oxford City likely to be moved to North.

paulisi · Tennis legend

No disrespect to Chesterfield, but I'm glad Noots County got promoted. Two of the big spenders gone.

In form Kiddy got promoted as did Oxford City.

indiana · Tennis legend

Well done to Notts County.

I've read elsewhere many criticisms of the Football League and non league play-off systems, generally regarding teams being beaten by teams who got a lot lfewer points during the regular league aeason ( often by the losing teams' supporters ).

My general view though is that the play-offs are a great end to the season. But one reservation is that where you have a fairly big sized league there should be at least two automatic places first. This season more than any has indicated why the National League to League 2 promotion.should be 2 automatic + 1 play-off rather than 1 + 1.

-- Edited by indiana on Sunday 14th of May 2023 09:17:32 PM

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Well done to Notts County.

I've read elsewhere many criticisms of the Football League and non league play-off systems , generally regarding teams being beaten by teams who got a lot lfewer points during the regular league aeason ( often by the losing teams' supporters ).

My general view though is that the play-offs are a great end to the season. But one reservation is thar where you have a fairly big league of 20 or more clubs there should be at least two automatic places first. This season more than any has indicated why the National League to League 2 promotion.should be 2 automatic + 1 play-off rather than 1 + 1.

I tend to agree- 3 down from 24 in efl2 would be sensible - being honest, the conference is not like its financially ruinous and many of the teams in it get bigger crowds and all stay pro. So just having two go down cant make sense in terms of protectionism. Id actually be happy to see something like Scotland, Indy, and have a play off incorporating Three conference teams and the third lowest EFL2 team in it.

paulisi · Tennis legend

Many conference clubs are financially in a mess. Wrexham and their following and push for the online tv deal have kept them afloat.
Huge number of clubs struggling:
Southend - up for sale
Solihull - huge losses propped up by benefactor
Chesterfield - borrowed huge amounts in covid to survive
Fylde - huge losses propped up by benefactor
Oldham - huge issues, new owner in place, but massive wage bill
Boreham Wood - huge losses propped up by benefactor

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

paulisi wrote:
Many conference clubs are financially in a mess. Wrexham and their following and push for the online tv deal have kept them afloat.
Huge number of clubs struggling:
Southend - up for sale
Solihull - huge losses propped up by benefactor
Chesterfield - borrowed huge amounts in covid to survive
Fylde - huge losses propped up by benefactor
Oldham - huge issues, new owner in place, but massive wage bill
Boreham Wood - huge losses propped up by benefactor

Well, Harrogate falls in to the huge losses propped up by a benefactor category but the reality for Harrogate is that the benefactor is benevolent and would never (never say never) call in his loans. I say never but I think hes genuine. Im not sure how that stands elsewhere to be honest and whether it is right or wrong

paulisi · Tennis legend

Huddersfield said that when Phil Hodgkinson took over and then his businesses went bust and was forced to sell his shares in the club.

paulisi · Tennis legend

Spartans promoted.

indiana · Tennis legend

paulisi wrote:
Spartans promoted.

Yes, my very local Scottish non league team will now be a very local Scottish League team.

Albion Rovers 0 The Spartans 1 ( agg. 1-2 )

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
paulisi wrote:
Spartans promoted.
Yes, my very local Scottish non league team will now be a very local Scottish League team.
Albion Rovers 0 The Spartans 1 ( agg. 1-2 )

Excellent ! well done! Where are they, i tried to see on a map and they seemed to be down below Stockbridge and towards Leith , is that right ? Local derbies with Hibs in a few seasons.!

I think I count them as my adopted Scottish club because of my old work colleague , Craig Graham, must drop him a line !

btw Indy - how many league clubs does a Edinburgh have - Hibs, Hearts, Spartans who else?

RainDelay · Pro player

They also have FC Edinburgh.
Well done to Spartans they obviously deserve it by beating Brechin and Albion, but would have preferred Brechin, and feel sorry for Albion as can't see them recovering from this. Their stadium should be condemned and if they couldn't afford repairs whilst in league two they definitely won't be able to afford it in the lowland league