Property developers and the death of non league football clubs

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

RE: Property developers and the death of non league football clubs

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Working on it! Managed to get play off tickets at the death. Hopefully the Man City fans will be all cup finaled out and not fancy it.

Fabulous result very please to see Nyland playing so well in goal. He was completely out of his depth in the championship prior to his injury but has improved enormously, shows amazing self confidence and commitment.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

I know FA vase is a national competition but I noticed west Auckland of north east (former european cup winners smile ) play Plymouth Parkway next saturday in last 16. Is that really sensible, they are amateurs at that level, arent they, and what about the fans. Surely they could keep it regional until the semis say?

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Absolutely not, Deal are off to Consett, which is similarly brutal .Deal have won it in the past and its what makes the competition, the clubs form strong bonds and meet people they would otherwise never meet. Deal are 10th in the SKEFL already 1,2,3 and 4 have essentially managed to cull themselves down to Corinthian (who would be my tip) and the SFs contained 3 teams from geographically adjacent leagues 2 sides were from the SKEFL.

The way it is makes the QF incredibly competitive 5 out of 8 are now step 4 most doing very well as the cream rises. I genuinely think it is the most competitive throughout of all the FAs competition purely because of the whole concept of having a pyramid and such a broad base by step 5. It really makes it a truely national Competition with a worthy end point which will be one of the highlights of any player who gets to play in the finals. Ask Kevin Lisbie.

Unfortunately in an attempt to stay fit I went for a short ride on the Romney Hythe & Dymchurch Railway to Dungeness from New Romney and walked back before watching Hythe T v Herne Bay (tetchy 1-1 draw not surprising and a few feet left in tackles given Herne Bay have most of Hythes squad from last season). In doing so missed a goal fest at Champion Hill (get claustrophobia 2626) Hamlet coming out 5-3 winners. Presently focusing on going to away games they need the support & I can get in a walk

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Property developers @ it again. Sad tale of Basingstoke Town FC so bad.

twitter.com/journokatie/status/1225186761095241728

Oakland2002 · All-time great

On a much happier note all systems go for the Vase QFs

twitter.com/westaucklandfc/status/1225725839104466944

https://twitter.com/sportingkhalsa/status/1225813657667461120?s=12

https://twitter.com/dealtownfc/status/1225881659184222209?s=12

https://twitter.com/dealtownfc/status/1226026523204911105?s=12

-- Edited by Oakland2002 on Saturday 8th of February 2020 07:33:23 AM

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Oakland2002 wrote:
Property developers @ it again. Sad tale of Basingstoke Town FC so bad.

twitter.com/journokatie/status/1225186761095241728

That is sad to read. My first ever non league match was to see basingstoke play a friendly versus Southampton in the late 80s. I did some business at the time with Basingstoke Press and their owner, Gordon Hill, was chairman of Basingstoke Town in the 80s. Sadly Gordon passed away 3 or 4 years back.

https://btfc.co.uk/news-gordon-hill-passes-away/

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Oakland2002 wrote:
On a much happier note all systems go for the Vase QFs

twitter.com/westaucklandfc/status/1225725839104466944

https://twitter.com/sportingkhalsa/status/1225813657667461120?s=12

https://twitter.com/dealtownfc/status/1225881659184222209?s=12

https://twitter.com/dealtownfc/status/1226026523204911105?s=12

-- Edited by Oakland2002 on Saturday 8th of February 2020 07:33:23 AM

Looking forward to it, last 16 in fact today, and fa trophy. Harrogate go in that at home to eastleigh today!

paulisi · Tennis legend

Oakland2002 wrote:
Property developers @ it again. Sad tale of Basingstoke Town FC so bad.

twitter.com/journokatie/status/1225186761095241728

We went passed the ground last year on way to athletics. Owner/ex owner sounds like a real cowboy.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Harrogate reached last 8, their best ever showing, so well done to them.

Last 8 of Trophy has 4 level 5, a level 6, 7 and two level 8.

Barrow went out so Town are probably top ranked team left, big opportunity.

Oakland2002 · All-time great

I had a fabulous trip to Atherstone. Met some really nice people, learnt about the Atherstone Ball Game which happens every shrove Tuesday. Touched this years ball after a chat with the upholsterer who makes it. Apparently they board up the shops 1000 or so people turn up to watch a couple of 100 fight (each other and) for the ball all afternoon. The police just let them get on with it.

Witnessed some idiocy. A small group of alleged Atherstone fans lighting flares, throwing full cans of beer at away fans ... to be fair Atherstone knew it was coming and had got lots of fans who volunteered as stewards to mitigate it. The police applying their standard policy to ball games in Atherstone. The game was a tense affair, Worcester had brought about 400 fans (of all ages) which added to the atmosphere in a tight little ground, the gate well over 800. Against the run of play Atherstone (step 6) took the lead on about 25 minutes, a screamer from the edge of the box and then held on until half time. Worcester missed an opportunity to roll the ball into the back of the net purely due to a both of dithering by the centre forward who created the chance. Arggggh.

We had a bit of half time idiocy during the change of ends and then Worcester came out all guns blazing for the second half. A streaker in pants! Is that a thing? provided brief punctuation before Worcester equalised. Although on top the game opened up with both sides trading metaphorical punches and hand bags, Worcester conceded their advantage with a rash tackle and a sending off 5 minutes before the end of normal time. 30 minutes of back to the wall defending and hey ho here we go again on Wednesday night in beautiful Bromsgrove!

Wroxham dunked out the favourites Stowmarket Town in the all east Anglian affair. Consett beat Deal but Corinthian (based on a farm! close to Brands Hatch) beat Sporting Khalsa keeping the strongest SCEFL side in the competition, wins for Hebburn (more Northern league representation), Plymouth Parkway, Leighton Town (Leighton Buzzard) and Bitton (Bath) means there is good spread of teams across the U.K. for the QFs! Some great potential days out and at least Worcester are still in the draw on Monday! The Black spot being the northern powerhouse! do they play football in Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool?

Had a brief chat with the Worcester and Atherstone chairmen, separately, but have to say there are some really decent people out there voluntarily make colossal efforts to bind together these community clubs at this level. Really felt for the Atherstone chairman whose primary focus yesterday was probably just getting through the day and everyone off home safe.

-- Edited by Oakland2002 on Sunday 9th of February 2020 09:01:54 AM

indiana · Tennis legend

The last non league side exited the Scottish Cup at the L16 stage with BSC Glasgow losing 4-1 at home to Hibernian.

"Home" since 2016 has been in Alloa but they are really from the Broomhill area of Glasgow. Currently they are on the fringe of the Lowland League title race so an outside chance of getting into the end of season Scottish League play-offs.

Brechin City, adrift at the bottom of League Two, look very likely to be the Scottish League side fighting to retain their status in these play-offs.

The two sides who have come up since these play-offs were introduced ( Edinburgh City and Cove Rangers ) are currently in a battle for the one automatic promotion spot into League One.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
The last non league side exited the Scottish Cup at the L16 stage with BSC Glasgow losing 4-1 at home to Hibernian.

"Home" since 2016 has been in Alloa but they are really from the Broomhill area of Glasgow. Currently they are on the fringe of the Lowland League title race so an outside chance of getting into the end of season Scottish League play-offs.

Brechin City, adrift at the bottom of League Two, look very likely to be the Scottish League side fighting to retain their status in these play-offs.

The two sides who have come up since these play-offs were introduced ( Edinburgh City and Cove Rangers ) are currently in a battle for the one automatic promotion spot into League One.

Thanks Indy - what I thought was wonderful (and maybe instructive!) is that the team that goes down from League two, if any, gets assigned to the Highland or Lowland League on the very specific rule "

If the Highland or Lowland team wins the final they are promoted to League Two, and the team finishing 10th is relegated to the appropriate regional league depending on whether they are north or south of 56.4513N latitude (middle of the Tay Road Bridge. If the League Two side prevails, they retain their place in the following season's competition".

In England, they effectively just move teams around to create a best fit regionally , but this suggests Highland and Lowland as a concept is very clearly defined - is the same Tay Road Bridge aspect used by anyone describing the Highlands or Lowlands?

indiana · Tennis legend

Interesting, I wasn't aware of this rule for assigning the teams, and no, never heard anyone using the Tay Bridge as a Highlands / Lowlands divider - partly because it doesn't really work at the Tay Bridge side of the country.

In generality it's not bad but the east coast teams north of the Tay Bridge are not in the true Highlands, certainly not Dundee. That line divider is much more a diagonal line from not far north of Glasgow in the west to north of Aberdeen in the east.

But it's not unreasonable as a geographical Highland / Lowland League divider and would assign Brechin to the Highland League if the worst came to the worst.

A Highland League by the way, since yesterday, remarkably not propped up by my old hometown club, Fort William. Yay biggrin

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

FA Trophy QF's

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@BarnetFC
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@halesowentownfc

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@Official_NCFC
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@AveleyFC

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@ConcordRangers
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@RoystonTownFC

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@AFCFylde
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@HarrogateTown

Harrogate sadly get a tough QF draw, but you never know and we are above Fylde in the league this season