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RE: Property developers and the death of non league football clubs


paulisi wrote:

Yes - we will be the key to who wins.
I think Salford are overrated. Brackley are good at home only. Don't write off Harrogate - they were very good when they came to us.


 To be fair I have only started watching Harrogate this season and they play a nice brand of passing football, possession game. They have scored a lot of goals as well and have a very impressive goal difference, just seem to lose the odd silly match that means they havent gathered the points they should have. 

Fingers crossed



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Harrogate won at York at the weekend , but Salford also won so the table now looks:

League table
Pos Team [ v t e ] Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts Promotion, qualification or relegation
1 Salford City (X) 38 25 7 6 72 43 +29 82 Promotion to the National League
2 Harrogate Town (X) 38 24 7 7 92 43 +49 79 Qualification for the National League North play-off semi-finals
3 Brackley Town 36 20 11 5 64 31 +33 71

Brackley still in it theoretically but...

4 games left each for Harrogate and Salford, 2 at home, 2 away. Harrogate at home this weekend and really must win and also hope that Salford lose or at the best draw.

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Harrogate v Southport on Saturday. No idea which Southport will turn up, the one that won 6 home matches on the bounce or who have lost last four straight.
Salford and Brackley have awkward ties against well organised sides in Alfreton and Nuneaton.

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Meanwhile, sorry for adding here but thought I'd slip it in, up in Scotland my team St Mirren lose out on the first of their effectively 8 match / championship points, losing 1-0 tonight at Dundee United.

MP 2 comes at home against the second place team Livingston on Saturday. If we can't at least draw that match then we have to conspire to lose our final 3 matches of the season and they win their final 3, in which case they'ed probably pip us on goal difference. I know all logic says we are as good as up ( just one automatic promotion place ) but maybe just get the job done.

Yes some idiot did say to his mate a week or two ago we don't want to win this too easily in case it attracts more interest in our manager than there has been already.



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paulisi wrote:

Harrogate v Southport on Saturday. No idea which Southport will turn up, the one that won 6 home matches on the bounce or who have lost last four straight.
Salford and Brackley have awkward ties against well organised sides in Alfreton and Nuneaton.


 Going to be close. 

 

Diverting slightly...when I was young (as in 12 or so, maybe 40 years or so back) I recall Southport playing in the FA Amateur Cup Final (now the FA Vase) at Wembley against, I think I am right, Wigan Athletic or some such team. a 100,000 crowd turned up, not sure who won now but my Dad and his pal (who was from Parbold near Wigan) went to it I think...



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Bad day for me yesterday both Dulwich Hamlet and Greenwich Borough came off the wrong end of 2-1 score lines at home! Dulwich still got a decent crowd for a horrid Tuesday night at Tooting but although not too far off what you would get midweek earlier in the season (generally 700-750) given what was at stake.

I think loosing our home at Champion Hill probably took 500 off the gate. Bit of a shame we drew on Saturday at Burgess Hill and up to that point things had really tightened up with Billeracy dropping lots of points not really walking away with it as they had do many games in hand. Still some big matches to come even before the playoffs

I hoping for a little bit of decent weather as we are due another jolly boys outing to the Kent coast with a trip to fellow title chasers; Folkestone on Saturday, it will be very interesting to see how many go, the club are running a supporters coach/coaches. Not bad for the Isthmian league.

Interesting comments from Indie regarding interest in your manager. We should have lost ours years ago at Dulwich, he has over achieved for his entire tenure which is now about 7 years, he is however heavily involved in the very successful academy which he may or may not have an element of ownership in, there is obviously an emotional element given the amount of off the field nonsense he and his team have had to deal with but I think clubs at this level have an opportunity to franchise their youth set ups to reward outstanding coaches. Dulwich have always had a very strong youth set up often blooding the noses of local premiership and championship clubs.

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JonH wrote:
paulisi wrote:

Harrogate v Southport on Saturday. No idea which Southport will turn up, the one that won 6 home matches on the bounce or who have lost last four straight.
Salford and Brackley have awkward ties against well organised sides in Alfreton and Nuneaton.


 Going to be close. 

 

Diverting slightly...when I was young (as in 12 or so, maybe 40 years or so back) I recall Southport playing in the FA Amateur Cup Final (now the FA Vase) at Wembley against, I think I am right, Wigan Athletic or some such team. a 100,000 crowd turned up, not sure who won now but my Dad and his pal (who was from Parbold near Wigan) went to it I think...


 It wasn't Southport, we were never Amateur.

Skem were the big amateur club in the area.



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paulisi wrote:
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paulisi wrote:

Harrogate v Southport on Saturday. No idea which Southport will turn up, the one that won 6 home matches on the bounce or who have lost last four straight.
Salford and Brackley have awkward ties against well organised sides in Alfreton and Nuneaton.


 Going to be close. 

 

Diverting slightly...when I was young (as in 12 or so, maybe 40 years or so back) I recall Southport playing in the FA Amateur Cup Final (now the FA Vase) at Wembley against, I think I am right, Wigan Athletic or some such team. a 100,000 crowd turned up, not sure who won now but my Dad and his pal (who was from Parbold near Wigan) went to it I think...


 It wasn't Southport, we were never Amateur.

Skem were the big amateur club in the area.


 Yes, sorry, you're right (my grandmother lived in skelmersdale so I recall now!)



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This Saturday in a Step 5!!! Midland Premier Fixture, Bromsgrove Sporting played Worcester City, Bromsgrove won 2-1

The attendance...... 1400!!! Step 5. That is like National League 1 with Harrogate in the equivalent of the Premiership,

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That is impressive, Harrogate would love to get 1500 regularly. Out of interest is their an accurate resource that shows non league average attendance for different clubs that anyone knows?

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The non league football paper has each weeks crowds down to step 4. I also follow Non league crowds on Twitter. Sad I know and still not answered your question.

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Try this:
www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/global/attendances/

Hereford, South Shields have massive support for their leagues.

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paulisi wrote:

Try this:
www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/global/attendances/

Hereford, South Shields have massive support for their leagues.


 spot on, thank you paulisi!  

 

Two things struck me - top national south average is below 1,000 and below many more national north, I hadn't realised there was such a stark difference . 

 

And get Ossett town and Ossett albion , equal at 207 average each ! I wonder how their Derby match goes!



-- Edited by JonH on Friday 13th of April 2018 07:54:07 AM

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Yes non league is well supported where the clubs are ex football league clubs or Phoenix clubs there of. Another stand out for me is Bromsgrove Sporting nearly touching 1k in the Midland Premier.



-- Edited by Oakland2002 on Friday 13th of April 2018 04:05:52 PM

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Oakland2002 wrote:

Yes non league is well supported where the clubs are ex football league clubs or phenolic clubs there of. Another stand out for me is Bromsgrove Sporting nearly touching 1k in the Midland Premier.


 impressive. 

 

You've got me with phenolic though, my language skills let me down on that one?? 



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