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indiana wrote:
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Evan's turn to be the GB #10 counter ( WR 570 as against Brydan's WR 557 on 01/10 ).

And Evan will now retain that #10 position next week but over 100 places higher with his Brisbane 25K title points added. Looks as if he will be around WR 450 with #9 Lloyd up a bit as well, probably into the 440s ( from WR 460 ).

Look as if GB will pass the current Austrian 2556 total even before Kyle ( the only GB top 10 player defending points, ie 45 ), Jay and Dan get going for the week. And in his position Kyle can't really drop many places even if things go awry in R1.


Sadly Dan's week didn't get going at all, having just retired from his R1 match after losing the 1st set on a TB.


 GBR unlikely to do anything in the mens (2663) - but might sneak a place ifrom Itay the womens (1964).


 confuse  - as above ( and I just checked live rankings to see that I wasn't imagining it ) Evan stands to rise over 100 places on 15/10, as does our men's total top 10 rankings.


 As always you are correct - revised mens at 2591 -  could take a place from Austria if things go their way.



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Recount.

GBR mens (2519) may be enough to take a place from AUT with KE and JC still with a chance to score more  - but women (1974) unlikely to sneak a place from Italy with only KB still still with a chance to score more.



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Strongbow wrote:

Recount.

GBR mens (2519) may be enough to take a place from AUT with KE and JC still with a chance to score more  - but women (1974) unlikely to sneak a place from Italy with only KB still still with a chance to score more.


 Sadly Jay lost overnight. Kyle just started. 



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Looking at the lastest Live rankings GBR men and women unlikely to pick up any places this week. cry



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Thanks Strongbow - it is quite tight around team Gb now, a good week holding off one or two risers below and drawing close on Italy. Could be an interesting last few weeks of the season - when is the last WTA ranking list of 2018 by the way?

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Thanks Strongbow - some real clear air behind GB now with Belgium and Czech republic falling significantly and , for me at least, Portugal rather surprisingly coming up to behind GB. Their rise has gone completely un noticed by me, at least.

But a big gap still and almost onto Austria in front although they seem to keep improving at pace. However, Russia and Canada also seem to be falling rapidly at the moment so there may be hope ahead as we move into next year.

Australia also continue to impress with a rather rapid rise. One month ago the average for the Aussie was around 100, it is now below 90.

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Thanks Strongbow - it is quite tight around team Gb now, a good week holding off one or two risers below and drawing close on Italy. Could be an interesting last few weeks of the season - when is the last WTA ranking list of 2018 by the way?


Next week Maia's upward move of around +39 is negated by Naomi's downward move of the same margin - and fall from GB #4 to #7. There may be some upward movement of the overall 10, especially if Katie B wins a couple of matches, but it won't be much. so position next week will depend on the movement of others. 

I'm not sure exactly when the transfer to the new arrangment will take place, but presumably the rankings for the week of 31 Dec will herald it, whenever they are released. There are a handful of ITF tournaments week of 17-23 Dec that will go into that final ranking, otherwise it will be pretty much set from earlier in the month. No ITF schedule has been released yet for Jan 19, so guess some clarification around the start up of the new twin tour set up is still ongoing. 

 



-- Edited by Michael D on Monday 15th of October 2018 03:08:40 PM

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Nice points rise for the GB men thanks very largely to Evan.

I know no positions gained against other countries' averages but I tend to be more interested in purely our average and how it moves. Hoping to some day see both our men and women under 2000 - yes, bit to go at the moment! - but clearly some potential big gainers in the men in the months to come. It can though be the unexpected droppers that snarl up hopes and expectations.

Anyway Evan. having risen so much this week will drop out of our top 10 next week with the even bigger rise that Jack will have. Jack's 88 points though next Monday will just be an 8 point increase on Evan's 80 points this week. More positions will be lost by Liam's 48 points fall. So over to Kyle, Cam, Jay and James ... 



-- Edited by indiana on Monday 15th of October 2018 03:27:56 PM

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Michael D wrote:
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Thanks Strongbow - it is quite tight around team Gb now, a good week holding off one or two risers below and drawing close on Italy. Could be an interesting last few weeks of the season - when is the last WTA ranking list of 2018 by the way?


Next week Maia's upward move of around +39 is negated by Naomi's downward move of the same margin - and fall from GB #4 to #7. There may be some upward movement of the overall 10, especially if Katie B wins a couple of matches, but it won't be much. so position next week will depend on the movement of others. 

I'm not sure exactly when the transfer to the new arrangment will take place, but presumably the rankings for the week of 31 Dec will herald it, whenever they are released. There are a handful of ITF tournaments week of 17-23 Dec that will go into that final ranking, otherwise it will be pretty much set from earlier in the month. No ITF schedule has been released yet for Jan 19, so guess some clarification around the start up of the new twin tour set up is still ongoing. 

 



-- Edited by Michael D on Monday 15th of October 2018 03:08:40 PM


 presumably the transition will have some significant impact on the number of countries (women and men) able to actually have with ten players to form an average for tracking the strongest nation. Would be interesting to see how many and which nations fall away?      



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JonH wrote:
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Thanks Strongbow - it is quite tight around team Gb now, a good week holding off one or two risers below and drawing close on Italy. Could be an interesting last few weeks of the season - when is the last WTA ranking list of 2018 by the way?


Next week Maia's upward move of around +39 is negated by Naomi's downward move of the same margin - and fall from GB #4 to #7. There may be some upward movement of the overall 10, especially if Katie B wins a couple of matches, but it won't be much. so position next week will depend on the movement of others. 

I'm not sure exactly when the transfer to the new arrangment will take place, but presumably the rankings for the week of 31 Dec will herald it, whenever they are released. There are a handful of ITF tournaments week of 17-23 Dec that will go into that final ranking, otherwise it will be pretty much set from earlier in the month. No ITF schedule has been released yet for Jan 19, so guess some clarification around the start up of the new twin tour set up is still ongoing. 

 



-- Edited by Michael D on Monday 15th of October 2018 03:08:40 PM


 presumably the transition will have some significant impact on the number of countries (women and men) able to actually have with ten players to form an average for tracking the strongest nation. Would be interesting to see how many and which nations fall away?      


 It is hard to see where 538 places in total across the top 10 Brits could come right now. Clearly Cam might rise a few tens still, Dan I think has a fair bit more to come (would be good to see him get back towards top 100), maybe Jack Draper over first half of next year, and if fit Andy could also take a hundred or more places out. So perhaps it is possible to see maybe 300 or 400 total, but 500 seems a stretch right now...?   



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Indeed, but some day maybe ...

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OER showing Jack Draper at #9 but it will take an amazing performance by CN or JW to catch Austria.

Same in the womens - up to JK, KB or KS to catch Italy.

All life is 6-4 against.



-- Edited by Strongbow on Tuesday 16th of October 2018 12:07:07 AM

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OER showing Jack Draper at #9 but it will take an amazing performance by CN or JW to catch Austria.

Same in the womens - up to JK, KB or KS to catch Italy.

All life is 6-4 against.



-- Edited by Strongbow on Tuesday 16th of October 2018 12:07:07 AM


 Hi Strongbow - you've got me here, all life is 6-4 against ? Is this a comment on the existential futility of it all, a statement on the existence or not of God or a betting site prediction on our chances of catching the central European countries above us?! 



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