Battle for the top

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

RE: Battle for the top

indiana · Tennis legend

Sorry folk, but I must address some nonsense here. Given it's very much at a tangent to the the real business of the thread feel free to pass on by.

Now, Jaggy, my "I don't do points scoring" ( yes, I did raise my eyebrows ) friend, I am sorry if you found my referring to two posts of yours just over two months apart a bit unnecessary, but rather than just say that or the stuff about entitled to change your mind and you had evidently ( though unsurprisingly unknown to me ) added more in another place at another time and somehow that was meant to be read with the Madrid post.

1) You accuse me of being "selective".

2) I point out that I quoted every word of your previous post in the Madrid thread and it was your only post there.

3) Rather than take back that quite wrong "selective" snipe you refer to some other post somewhere back in April ! While I recalled the essence of the Madrid post ( because I recalled rather disagreeing though I didn't say anything ) I am afraid I do not keep a log of all your posts let alone every word !!!

I don't know what's with this seeming machismo of never giving an inch and / or often just disappearing in other instances when you lose factual discussions / arguments unlike so many other posters. This latest episode is just very silly.

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

The thing is Indiana it's fair enough to select a quote to make a point but I was simply defending myself on what was said and meant, and also providing you with what I said on the topic just a page back.

But hey patronising and condescend me all you wish, I can handle it fine and well and you did make me laugh with the 'machismo' description something that anyone who knows me would also laugh it. I'd normally be offended by such an insult and derogatory term but you've reminded me of an EP by one of my favourite bands that I've not listened to in a while and now currently have playing as we speak. Never giving an inch is interesting as well, again incorrect.

On the points scoring think we are at Deuce now.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Maybe this is one of those contests that should be suspended due to fading light???

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

Coup Droit wrote:
Maybe this is one of those contests that should be suspended due to fading light???

Agreed. I love this forum because there are so few or these kinds of posts, most people are polite and respectful - urm very British

They don't seem to want to point score or troll. Maybe if you want to do that you'd be better off with like minded people in MTF.

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

Helen40 wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Maybe this is one of those contests that should be suspended due to fading light???
Agreed. I love this forum because there are so few or these kinds of posts, most people are polite and respectful - urm very British
They don't seem to want to point score or troll. Maybe if you want to do that you'd be better off with like minded people in MTF.

Indiana will see you over there Helen, if that's where they call people trolls. Seeing as this forum is for the elite and me too seeing as I'm not elite enough for your 'Britishness'. Do they have a sense of humour over there?

Match suspended as someone just hit the umpire with a ball

seagull · Hall of fame

Zzzzzzzz

thejester · Satellite level

So, Novak won't be playing again this year. So that's him out of the 'battle for the top', not that he was really in it at this stage anyway. What it does mean is that when he comes back, he'll likely be somewhere between 12-16 in the rankings (I assume he won't get a PR?) and a very dangerous floater in Oz!

seagull · Hall of fame

You would only use a PR to get into an event which won't be a problem for Novak.

But yes will certainly mess with the seedings!!

thejester · Satellite level

seagull wrote:
You would only use a PR to get into an event which won't be a problem for Novak.

But yes will certainly mess with the seedings!!

Yeah bit silly of me that. Will make for a potental nightmare draw for one of the big boys.

indiana · Tennis legend

And the jury is very much out as to what seeding bracket Andy will likely end up in. Based on his race position, and even without ongoing injury concerns, he's on line to just about slip into the top 8.

Actually I could see him ending almost anywhere in the top 16 seeds ( though would no doubt need rather a lot of Rafa and Fed cooperation to have much chance to get near the very top spots ). If he packed in his own season he might even not quite make the top 16.

Fed vs Andy and Rafa vs Novak could be L16 ties in Melbourne !

indiana · Tennis legend

With Rafa, not unexpectedly, not appearing in any draws this coming week ( more specifically not in the Washington ATP 500 ) Andy will go to 40 weeks at WR 1 on 07/08, drawing level with #14 Nastase in the earlier list of accumulated weeks as WR 1.

As to whether he can move ahead, as of now both Andy and Rafa remain entered for the Montreal Masters the following week. Neither are defending anything ( the Olympics last year brought the Canadian Masters forward, not that either played in it anyway ) nor have a full set of counters.

So it just comes down to whether Rafa can make up the current 285 points difference ( 7750 - 7465 ) to stop Andy adding a further week.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

As reported in the entries thread, Andy has withdrawn from Montreal and so Rafa will become WR 1 if he reaches the SF.

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

Stan out for the season following Novak, also hearing its likely Murray will pull out of Cincy and US Open, so Roger and Rafa guaranteed more or less for a clean sweep and a certainty for 1 and 2

JonH · All-time great

Stan Wawrinka