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Post Info TOPIC: Week 32 - WTA Premier 5 ($2.8M) - Montreal, Canada Hard


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RE: Week 32 - WTA Premier 5 ($2.8M) - Montreal, Canada Hard


indiana wrote:
AliBlahBlah wrote:

If Svitolina played Slams the way she plays Premier 5's, she'd be a multi-Slam champion world #1

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Certainly she's got a great Premier 5 record though I wonder if that's partly how others rise to Slams rather more than they do to Premier 5s?  I have not seen enough of Svitolina in the different forms to really know if she herself actually plays better in these Premier 5 events or just more plays to a consistent level. Didn't seem outstanding today but certainly good enough on the day against a decent Konta but service not really firing.


Eli seems to play well at P5, and beat good players at them, even back-to-back-to-back. Whereas at Slams, she rarely performs, and frequentyl loses to players ranked below her, which she rarely does at this level.
Her Slam performances often seem anemic and stressed and without her trademark energy, self-belief and positivity.
She made WR3 in 2017, a year in which she went {R32, QF, R16, R16} at the Slams, and {R16, R64, R64, QF} at the Premier Mandatories.
Given the premium on late round points at Slams and PMs, that is really pretty difficult, nigh impossible to do unless you are playing exceptionally - winning - most everything at the next level down, the P5, and she won Dubai, Rome & Toronto in the same year.
If she'd had the Slam or PM performance commensurate to her P5 performance, or an 'average' top 10 player, she'd easily have added 1,000-1,500 points.

It must be quite a quandary to her and her team why she can play so well, and yet continually flub at the Slams.



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PockyTastic wrote:

Some green shoots have started to emerge. Am I right in thinking that after points from Cincinnati come off Jo has little/nothing left to defend?


That's correct Pocky. Jo has 190 coming off for reaching the Cincinnati QF, and thereafter she just has two 10 pointers coming off for the rest of 2018, both first round losses at the US Open and the Beijing Premier Mandatory. So just by turning up at those two tournaments she would replace those two. Putting more points back on her ranking is of course a little complicated with the breakdown between Grand Slam, Premier Mandatory, Premier 5, Premier, and WTA International tournaments - Jo only has one counter in the latter category, then 4, 4, 4 in the first three categories, and 3 in the Premier category. Thus she has to improve her performances in a tournament in the respective categories.. what she needs is to be doing is winning at least two rounds per tournament, and then she is likely to be picking up points.



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Svitolina is the WTA version of Sascha Zverev

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Michael D wrote:
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Meantime at 6.20 pm local time, after about 2 and a half hours, Wozniacki and Sabalenka are in a final set TB in their R2 match on Court Central. The winner is due to play Mertens on Banque National Court at not before 6.30 pm "after suitable rest".

While yes while earlier I could perhaps see some points to the scheduling of 'to be completed' matches, it is indeed pretty bizarre to have this not started match 3rd on after the Stephens R3 match and the completion of the Halep 3 hour plus R2 match. So, yes on that scheduling, not clever. Starting with that R3 match ??!


 Sabalenka lost 0-6 to Mertens in the 3rd set in her R3 match, she was completely done by the scheduling - 6 gruelling sets in the late afternoon/ evening. 


 Jo and Partner gave a walkover in the doubles, presumably for the same reason, it would have been her 3rd appearance on court.



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Cracking final here between Sloane & Simona, with the Romanian prevailing. More like this at the USO, and we could start to call this a genuine rivalry.

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Not GB related, but what a fantastic final there between Halep and Stephens. Halep winning 7-6 (saved 5 SPs) 3-6 6-4. Some really great rallies and following their French Open final, hopefully these will continue to have intriguing latter stage matches of significant tournaments. A joy to watch.

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