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jaz


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RE: LTA in court


mEETING THE CRITERIA?  Oh really ... I have seen tennis players meet the criteria and the non-whites had their times changed, distances reduced ... the lta staff would make good accountants massaging their figures to suit their agenda!!



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What an absolute lot of non sense. Isaac stouts dad is very clever at working the system and calling in the racist card to get funding.

Truth is isaac is not good enough to warrant any funding, if he deserved any in the first place is arguable.



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Absolute and utter rubbish.

marcus Walters has been funded for years.

Why?

Because he is one of the top 98 players.

Isaac stoute has gone backwards so why should he get funding?

colour is nothing to do with it

 



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Lolly wrote:

Absolute and utter rubbish.

marcus Walters has been funded for years.

Why?

Because he is one of the top 98 players.

Isaac stoute has gone backwards so why should he get funding?

colour is nothing to do with it

 


You make a very good point. The LTA are far more successful at destroying talent than they are at developing talent when you compare Marcus and Isaac's progress.

Yasmine Clarke, Kira Akinnibi,  Mirabell Njoze, Jay Clarke, Isaac Stoute  players who's careers the LTA have torpedoed.



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The LTA have had an extremely efficient equal opportunities policy when it comes to torpedoing careers over the years!

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Incredible that all our players know the LTA have an absolute zero track record when it comes to producing players and yet these same players always jump onboard when the cheque book appears ! Maybe now the LTA are withdrawing funding we will produce more players because the federation will no longer be involved  !

The message is clear ?



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PaulM wrote:

The LTA have had an extremely efficient equal opportunities policy when it comes to torpedoing careers over the years!


 They may be an equal opportunity destroyer where white players are torpedoed by sheer incompetence but black players are targeted using the latest most sophisticated laser guided munitions. 

And Lolly why don't you get back to us when you can name a black player who has been given the same start/funding as was given to Jack Draper at the same stage it was given to Draper.



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Yes, and while you're at it, name a white player who has been given the same start/funding as was given to Jack Draper.

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Draper was the biggest hypocrite and probably did nothing for tennis in this country other than encourage its commercialisation which is not at all constructive if this does not benefit the players. The only people who benefited financially were Draper and his close entourage and from what we can tell anyone who asked questions or objected to his methods were quickly shown the door! He basically took everyone for a ride ! He'll definately be having a chuckle while reading this.



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I suspect many players follow the money because its the only way they feel they can keep playing. Not all players are from wealthy families and private and commercial sponsorship is next to impossible to come by in the UK compared with other countries.

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baxi2 wrote:

Draper was the biggest hypocrite and probably did nothing for tennis in this country other than encourage its commercialisation which is not at all constructive if this does not benefit the players. The only people who benefited financially were Draper and his close entourage and from what we can tell anyone who asked questions or objected to his methods were quickly shown the door! He basically took everyone for a ride ! He'll definately be having a chuckle while reading this.


It was not only Draper. It is part of the culture of the LTA and therefore widespread in the sport. Since his departure very little if anything has changed.

Yet you find the majority on this forum who voice their opinion to support the LTA in trying show Isaac Stoute the door, in this case the back door because they cannot even bring a case against him before their own tribunal.

A clear demonstration of this hypocrisy was the LTA  refusing an appeal to the Court of Arbitration For Sport. This company which has signed up to CAS jurisdiction refuses their service on a matter the LTA admit falls under CAS jurisdiction, will lose all credibility if the case against them is proved.

Could this be why they have cut back on player funding? The legal fees so far paid to Farrer & Co (the Queens solicitors) attempting to stop the claim, legal fees going forward now the case is going to trial and the potential for damages potentially in the millions. What price credibility?

Why do so many think they are immune from such treatment. If the LTA should be successful in persecuting this black child (now a young man) who was one of this country's best prospects, what will prevent the LTA from persecuting you or your children in the future for any disagreement?

For those of you who console yourselves with the fact that this can't happen to you because you are not a minority, when dealing with the LTA we are all minorities.

Remember where there is no law for one, there is no law. Within the LTA there is no law or in their case the code of conduct isn't worth the paper it's written on.



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Just to check,as I understand it:

The case against the LTA for racial discrimination is not the case that is actually being reviewed at the moment. The appeal at the moment is against the case being kicked out last year because Stoute had missed a filing deadline. Hence, if this court finds in Stoute's favour, this has no bearing on whether he suffered racial discrimination or not; the case will simply be sent back down to the High court and the actual merits of the case will be heard at another time.

Is there where we still are ?



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Not sure, Equality, where you get the impression that folk on this forum, let alone the majority, want to see Isaac shown the door.

I assume most just want him fairly treated, and most of us know little about the details.

It is fairly inevitable though that many wonder about how inflated, even untrue, many of the assertions from the Stoute side are when we see utter nonsense, or at best being very selective and misleading re info, on just how well ranked and good a prospect Isaac was / is. We have discussed the supposed number one in his agegroup.

When I see patent nonsense being spouted about stuff I have some idea of, I can't help wonder how much else is nonsense.

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indiana wrote:

Not sure, Equality, where you get the impression that folk on this forum, let alone the majority, want to see Isaac shown the door.

I assume most just want him fairly treated, and most of us know little about the details.

It is fairly inevitable though that many wonder about how inflated, even untrue, many of the assertions from the Stoute side are when we see utter nonsense, or at best being very selective and misleading re info, on just how well ranked and good a prospect Isaac was / is. We have discussed the supposed number one in his agegroup.

When I see patent nonsense being spouted about stuff I have some idea of, I can't help wonder how much else is nonsense.


Indiana what you consider nonsense, is fact which is accepted by the LTA.

It is admirable that you assume most want him fairly treated but the reality is most people in UK tennis want to maintain the status quo because they are more likely to benefit, but if they do not there is one less black person in the mix to compete against.



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I was talking about "most" on this forum, and I certainly stand by that.

And I actually severely doubt your more general "most".

It is unfortunate that some get so carried away by their rhetoric.

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