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Schedule for October
 

Week 1: Andy is scheduled to play in the Mons Challenger. However, if the rules are not enforced strictly he could play in ATP Tokyo if given a wildcard.

Week 2: Andy is scheduled to play in the Sacremento 50K Challenger though he may decide to try and qualify for ATP Vienna if not still in Mons

Week 3: Andy is scheduled to play in the Kolding Challenger in Denmark though if given a wildcard he may decide to play in TMS Madrid. He may try and qualify

Week 4: According to an original schedule Andy said he would play the Seoul 100K Challenger in Korea. However, he is more likely to go for an ATP event or a European challenger.

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I'm trying to find the Tokyo wildcards so far without success. However, when I find the list I will post it here. The Mons 125K organisers can force Andy to play in Mons because he has already entered for that tournament and can't change to playing in another one if they insist. However, the winner in Mons gets 90 points which is not bad and would and Andy up into the 70s.

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With regards to Tokyo: 3 wildcards allocated. Andy was 13th alternate and would have got in because of the large number of withdrawls.


But he chose to play Mons instead.


Some weeks you get lucky, some weeks you don't.


They only tend to allow a player to compete in a different tournament if the ATP or the tournament have made the error. For instance if the player appears in 2 direct entry lists.


So Andy is restricted to Mons, Sacremento and Kolding.


Highly unlikely to make it into qualifying for the Madrid Masters because he was 111 in the ranking and it is only a 48 player main draw so the cut off point for qualifying will be too high.



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Now at 68 Andy should definately get into Madrid qualifying without need of a wildcard and could easily be seeded.

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But the entry list for Madrid qualifying is not based on next week's entry rankings.


From SteveG tennis forums:


Madrid Qualifying
1 Acasuso, Jose ARG 58
2 Blake, James USA 34
3 Calleri, Agustin ARG 60
4 Carlsen, Kenneth DEN 59
5 Chela, Juan Ignacio ARG 50
6 Clement, Arnaud FRA 67
7 Malisse, Xavier BEL 43
8 Martin, Alberto ESP 61
9 Massu, Nicolas CHI 47
10 Mathieu, Paul-Henri FRA 53
11 Minar, Ivo CZE 70
12 Montanes, Albert ESP 69
13 Muller, Gilles LUX 66
14 Rochus, Christophe BEL 55
15 Serra, Florent FRA 54
16 Soderling, Robin SWE 41
17 Spadea, Vincent USA 56
18 Verdasco, Fernando ESP 38
19 Wawrinka, Stanislas SUI 62
20 Zib, Tomas CZE 63

Alternates
1. Vik, Robin CZE 71
2. Hernych, Jan CZE 72
3. Hernandez, Oscar ESP 73
4. Sabau, Razvan ROM 74
5. Monaco, Juan ARG 75
6. Seppi, Andreas ITA 76
7. Lapentti, Nicolas ECU 80
8. Djokovic, Novak SCG 81
9. Karlovic, Ivo CRO 82
10. Santoro, Fabrice FRA 83
11. Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo ESP 86
12. Dlouhy, Lukas CZE 87
13. Mello, Ricardo BRA 88
14. Bracciali, Daniele ITA 92
15. Bjorkman, Jonas SWE 93



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Qualifying isn't based on entries. You don't have to enter for it. The qualifying draw is made up of the players who come along and sign in on Friday night. Therefore Andy should get in if he wants to.

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Qualifying isn't based on entries. You don't have to enter for it. The qualifying draw is made up of the players who come along and sign in on Friday night. Therefore Andy should get in if he wants to.
Gosh, I am confused. What is the qualifying list for then? His name isn't on there, so how would he get into qualifying?

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Qualifying isn't based on entries. You don't have to enter for it. The qualifying draw is made up of the players who come along and sign in on Friday night. Therefore Andy should get in if he wants to.

For an average ATP event you are correct, but not for a Masters tournament.


Similarly there is an entry list for qualifying for Grand Slam events based on rankings some weeks beforehand.


SteveG has all the direct entry lists and they come from the official internal system for the players.


Here is the page:


http://www.stevegtennis.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=16&sid=054607f77ce52723cc8bd910357bfc12


The page for the Madrid Masters gives the direct entry list for qualifying.



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I think the list kundalini has posted is the list of alternates for Madrid [correct me if I'm wrong]. Therefore, there is no actual Madrid qualifying entry list as the alternate list is just the people who have entered for and missed making the main draw.

This is the only explanation I have for Andy planning to enter Madrid.

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Sorry kundalini, cross-posted. OK I see. Well that's weird. I dunno how Andy thinks he can get into Madrid qualifying then unless he's found out already that he's got a wildcard into it.

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Thanks for clarifying things kundalini. Sorry guys for giving the wrong info.

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No it is the list for qualifying


Here is the list for alternates (again from SteveG)


Alternates
1. Melzer, Jurgen AUT
2. Soderling, Robin SUE
3. Monfis, Gael FRA
4. Acasuso, Jose ARG
5. Mathieu, Paul Henry FRA
6. Ginepri, Robby USA
7. Spadea, Vicent USA
8. Verdasco, Fernando ESP
9. Blake, James USA
10. Chela, Juan Ignacio ARG


Andy doesn't appear to understand the rules. That or they don't apply to him. He can't play Madrid because he is in the direct entry list for a Challenger that week.



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Andy is not the first player to have messed up his schedule by failing to understand the rules or forgetting he was already on the direct entry list elsewhere.


Basically its Mons, Sacramento, Kolding or having a rest for one or more of those weeks.


I'm not aware of them ever letting a player change their schedule just because they fancy a change. Of course, if you are on the alternates list rather than the direct entry list you are free to accept wildcards, change your plans, enter qualifying etc



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OK kundalini. I see. Thanks for clarifying things. Sorry for messing up and giving the wrong info guys. Wonder what must be going on with Andy and the rest of Team Murray ? Wonder when they find out, whether they will decide to continue with Mons.

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Sorry about that.


We seemed to be writing our posts at the same time. Gets very confusing.


 



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